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creedlvr 05-19-2004 11:06 PM

Just because it's not the same as Creed ... especially without Scott. It felt they were "cheating" on him ... if that makes any sense. I just really am not excited at all about any of this.

creedman 05-19-2004 11:42 PM

just not the same as stapp and mark jaming together. i thought they were like brothers. IT SUCKS!!!!

aussiecreeder 05-19-2004 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by creedman
just not the same as stapp and mark jaming together. i thought they were like brothers. IT SUCKS!!!!


i know what you are saying i thought they would be making music forever but i am very excited about alter bridge. myles is a big talent and i'm sure the music will be fantastic!

Trees of Wisdom 05-20-2004 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by creedlvr
Just because it's not the same as Creed ... especially without Scott. It felt they were "cheating" on him ... if that makes any sense. I just really am not excited at all about any of this.


Mark is "cheating" on Scott with Myles Kennedy. :wtf:

aussiecreeder 05-20-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trees of Wisdom
Mark is "cheating" on Scott with Myles Kennedy. :wtf:


and here i am thinking they were a good christian band...... :D

hayley 05-20-2004 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by creedlvr
Just because it's not the same as Creed ... especially without Scott. It felt they were "cheating" on him ... if that makes any sense. I just really am not excited at all about any of this.

Oh well get over it. If you are still thinking that way about Creed, without out us still actually knowing about what completley went on, well, lets just say that is a stupid way to be thinking.

creedlvr 05-20-2004 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by addicted2stapp
Oh well get over it. If you are still thinking that way about Creed, without out us still actually knowing about what completley went on, well, lets just say that is a stupid way to be thinking.

:wtf: um ... yeah, well thanks! I guess I'm just stupid!

hayley 05-21-2004 03:50 AM

Sorry, but thats just what I think, it's time to get out of the gutter and move on. To Alter Bridge.

So does this mean that because of the way you are feeling, you won't be happy for the boys? Will you buy their album? Will you be supporting them in the way you did with Creed?

I'm just angry, because you said they were "cheating" on him. :suave: I don't know how many times I have to say it, but don't judge when we don't know the full story. I stopped judging and assuming things along time ago with what could have happened, I've just let that go because theres no use crying over spilt milk, so to speak.

creedlvr 05-21-2004 11:51 AM

Get out of the gutter??? :rolleyes: You're angry because of how I feel?? That's strange. I'm just saying it didn't feel right to see the whole band (minus one) with a new lead singer. I'm not making assumptions on how it all happened ... I'm just saying it seemed weird.

As far as my support of the new band, as I said, I'm just not excited for it. Once the album is released and I hear the music, I will decide. If I like it, I'll buy it. If not, then I won't. It's as simple as that. How can I know if I'll support them the same as I did Creed if I haven't heard anything from them?

Dogstar 05-21-2004 05:40 PM

After finally hearing the Mayfield Four, I have to say I'm pretty excited for the new band. He's a really good singer. I'll be very curious, that's for sure.

aussiecreeder 05-21-2004 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
After finally hearing the Mayfield Four, I have to say I'm pretty excited for the new band. He's a really good singer. I'll be very curious, that's for sure.


i don't know if i'm more exicited to hear that voice or some mark ripping it up.... :) mark just.....

hayley 05-22-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by creedlvr
You're angry because of how I feel?? That's strange.

No. You should just snap into reality, that's all.

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Originally Posted by creedlvr
I'm just saying it didn't feel right to see the whole band (minus one) with a new lead singer.

But this ISN'T CREED!!! This is a new band, Alter Bridge. Not Creed, not "Creed minus one" A NEW BAND.

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How can I know if I'll support them the same as I did Creed if I haven't heard anything from them?

Because you liked them as artists, becuase they are all so talented people, amazing songwriters and musicians. I am aware that Alter Bridge may be a new approach to rock music, their music may be slightly different, but not compleltley tearing away from the sound of Creed.

Trees of Wisdom 05-22-2004 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by addicted2stapp
No. You should just snap into reality, that's all.


But this ISN'T CREED!!! This is a new band, Alter Bridge. Not Creed, not "Creed minus one" A NEW BAND.


Because you liked them as artists, becuase they are all so talented people, amazing songwriters and musicians. I am aware that Alter Bridge may be a new approach to rock music, their music may be slightly different, but not compleltley tearing away from the sound of Creed.


The reason why a band would have a new leadsinger, but a new band name would be that they want to change their sound. So Alter Bridge will sound nothing like Creed.

It's like comparing Rage Against the Machine with Audioslave.

creedlvr 05-25-2004 02:35 PM

:banghead:

okay ... I guess it's time to pick at everything that someone says ... (of course, only if they don't agree with you, right?)
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Originally Posted by addicted2stapp
No. You should just snap into reality, that's all.

What are you talking about??????? I am fully aware of what's going on and have given up any hope at all of Creed staying together. What is your point? That if I'm not excited for this new stuff that I'm in denial? It's really very simple ... I'm just not excited. It has nothing to do with reality. That's how I feel. Period.
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But this ISN'T CREED!!! This is a new band, Alter Bridge. Not Creed, not "Creed minus one" A NEW BAND.
This NEW BAND consists of 3 out of 4 original Creed members and a different lead singer. Also, as I understand it, at least some of the new songs were originally intended to be on Creed's next album. Why is it so hard for you to fathom the idea that *some* people see this as Creed replaced it's lead singer (regardless of the story behind it or who's fault it was) and got a new name. I don't even know why I have to explain myself. All I was saying was that it seemed strange to me to see the band members with a different lead singer. What's wrong with that? What's your problem? I'm so tired of people (not only myself) getting "yelled" at and analyzed for not sharing the opinions of the majority.

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Because you liked them as artists, becuase they are all so talented people, amazing songwriters and musicians. I am aware that Alter Bridge may be a new approach to rock music, their music may be slightly different, but not compleltley tearing away from the sound of Creed.
So this means that I should just "love it" before I hear it??? What I said was ... I'll decide when I hear what they sound like. Again, what's wrong with that? Maybe I'll love them ... maybe I'll hate them ... won't know until I hear it. I really don't understand what's so difficult to comprehend.

End of discussion.

hayley 05-26-2004 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Trees of Wisdom
The reason why a band would have a new leadsinger, but a new band name would be that they want to change their sound. So Alter Bridge will sound nothing like Creed.

Yeah, that's true, but I mean I personally think that they will still have a hint of Creed in them, musically wise. I mean I could be wrong, but that's just what I think.

And creedlvr, I'm not even going to bother with this argument because I can see that it will lead us nowhere. We obviously always argue whenever there is a hot topic, I was just qutie pissed off at your remark that Mark, Brian, Flip, and Myles were "cheating on" Scott. When none of us know what went on, to judge like that is just stupid, you are obviously only on Scotts side. Lets just agree do disagree, I am already pissed off with what you said, so I'm going to leave it at that.

creedlvr 05-27-2004 04:29 PM

I am not on any one side. You're right ... this is pointless because you're extremely judgemental and obviously did not understand anything I've said. Anyway, I said what I said ... get over it.

I'm done with this dumb discussion.

luvscott 05-27-2004 09:23 PM

i DO feel like they backstabbed SCOTT, kicking him out of his own band and then his best friend never even calling him.

Does anyone think that mark is getting uglier as time goes by? Cuz he sure looks like it.

TeriB19 05-27-2004 10:12 PM

No, but your posts certainly are.

aussiecreeder 05-27-2004 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by luvscott
i DO feel like they backstabbed SCOTT, kicking him out of his own band and then his best friend never even calling him.

Does anyone think that mark is getting uglier as time goes by? Cuz he sure looks like it.


for starters you are assuming that scott got kicked out! where is your evidence to support this? if he did get kicked out i think he would have said something don't you?

hayley 05-31-2004 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by creedlvr
Iyou're extremely judgemental

Yep, judgemental... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by luvscott
Does anyone think that mark is getting uglier as time goes by? Cuz he sure looks like it.

:eek: Do you think so? HELL NO!!! He's looking better, I love the hair short.

handmedown, I agree with you 100%. There is no evidence, no one has said anything, so I can't see how people can just assume that Mark and the guys have been "backstabbing" Scott and have kicked him out of his own band... :wtf:

aussiecreeder 05-31-2004 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by addicted2stapp
Yep, judgemental... :rolleyes:


:eek: Do you think so? HELL NO!!! He's looking better, I love the hair short.

handmedown, I agree with you 100%. There is no evidence, no one has said anything, so I can't see how people can just assume that Mark and the guys have been "backstabbing" Scott and have kicked him out of his own band... :wtf:


exactly if you were kicked out of a band would you be silent let alone diplomatic in your interviews?

hayley 06-01-2004 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by handmedown
exactly if you were kicked out of a band would you be silent let alone diplomatic in your interviews?

It depends entirely on the situation. Obviously there is a difference between getting kicked out of your own band, and choosing to leave.
If I had of gotten kicked out of my band, then yeah I guess I would be angry, and would let my emotionas out, especially if I had of been with them for around 7 years. :suave: But, I mean this is conversation is on Creed, and we don't know what happened. So it is totally unfair to judge when we ourselves don't know much about what went on.

aussiecreeder 06-01-2004 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by addicted2stapp
It depends entirely on the situation. Obviously there is a difference between getting kicked out of your own band, and choosing to leave.
If I had of gotten kicked out of my band, then yeah I guess I would be angry, and would let my emotionas out, especially if I had of been with them for around 7 years. :suave: But, I mean this is conversation is on Creed, and we don't know what happened. So it is totally unfair to judge when we ourselves don't know much about what went on.


we don't know what happened you are right and we have to second guess the situation. even if he left himself but on bad terms i think someone would say something in that situation. we are assuming way too much including that the band is over, lets just enjoy the ride and hope for the best. show loyalty to both camps and don't favour one over the other.

hayley 06-02-2004 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by handmedown
even if he left himself but on bad terms i think someone would say something in that situation.

Yeah, anyone would, because you pressume that they would be angry about it.

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Originally Posted by handmedown
we are assuming way too much including that the band is over, lets just enjoy the ride and hope for the best. show loyalty to both camps and don't favour one over the other.

Amen. :D I agree, lets enjoy the ride and everything will come out over time.

About the siding thing, we have been over this before, I think siding is pathetic because we don't know what happened and we can't judge. It just makes me angry that some people can bash Stapp and think that it was all Tremos fault, or bash Tremo and think that it was all Stapp's fault. :mad1: There is no proof, we can't really say anything apart from discuss what we know.


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