people that cut themselves
 

what do you think of/about the idea of people that cut themselves...??

I think its gross :eek:

i think it is very wrong and sad that a person would do that to there selves
and they should seek help from somewhere like there schools guidance
counselers or there dr at least they could find the right help.
why the question??
you dont cut your self do you?? :slap: i hope not

I was just wondering...

Well, they shouldn't be bad-mouthed because of it, there is obviously something very wrong here, something troubling this person doing this, severe depresion maybe, something for which they need to seek help....schizophrenia even, who knows?? :confused:

Geek, I think that people who cut/burn etc themselves have a lot of self hate. It stems from a feeling of being an "outsider" of some sort, or carrying a burden of (likely) secret pain. When they hurt themselves, it makes them feel more real. It also makes them FEEL... anything is better than all that emotional painto them. GGG is right, this person needs HELP and is crying out for it by scarring themselves. If you or anyone you know does this, you may want to let a trusted adult know, but don't make that person feel like they are a freak for it or they will withdraw even more. PM me if you want more info since I can understand.

If you are being really serious here, it is a clinical problem. It can be related to OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) or it could be an attention seeking behavior. It also could be someone in a phase of mania, or even schizophrenia. Anyways it is a serious problem some people have, I have seen people cut themselves BIGTIME, saying they are "cutting out the demons" etc.... can get really deep in psychology!

some ppl just arent smart, ya know?

I hate to hear you say that. Being smart has nothing to do with a metal illness or disorder. It all has to do with chemicals in the brain, not smarts. Mental illness is hard for some people to understand if they have never known anyone with it. It is serious and not their fault, they need to seek help and understanding...

i know you did,nt mean it sometimes we say things before we think}}but its a sick morbid life to live to know that this is the only way to kill the pain inside you that its at you and theres not really a thing you can do it about it this is way of life that how some just smoke or eat to get buy others cut theme self ok and only a GOD can set you free from something like back shrinks only make things worse all the care about is money and they think that they can get inside your head and awake things that Are not even there Geek if you know someone or ya or na GODS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN HELP

I was going to say that right before I read your post Marlsy, smartness has nothing to do with it.... :(

your damn right

Believe me mental illness is not an easy or fun thing to deal with, I dealt with it for 9 years with my ex. It tears you apart and those who love you. :(

People who cut themselves are crying out for help it's their way of dealing with some kind of pain they are going through, I know that that's not the only reason, but that plays a very big part in people who decide to hurt themselvses in that kind of way, they are crying out for help, serious help, that they can't find themselves.

Ok, I'm going to take a huge step here and say something I really haven't talked about much. I did it when I was 18 or 19. I was going through post-tramatic stress symdrome and didn't have any idea why I was doing it or that I was really trying to get rid of the stress I had suffered from a date rape. I was in denial, but the pain I felt inside and anxiousness due to self-blame, somehow if I felt pain on the outside, it wasn't there on the inside. I was actually suicidal from it and went to the hospital for a while and seen this happening on another patient; unfortunately for me, it showed me how to deal with pain at that time. I stopped doing it shortly after I started. I had never heard of the actual disease or seen anything on TV about it, just seen this girl at the hospital. It seemed to help at the time. Years later, I got counseling and then realized that I had suffered from the rape and was in denial at that age.
Can't believe I wrote this here. I've never told anyone about it since the girl that I lived with at the time.
I'm not a freak BTW. It was a stage of my life I suffered through but am fine now. So, it's not just freaks, obsessive-compulsive people. I'm not proud of it by any means. And I'm not asking for sympathy or apologies here. Just wanted to clarify some things. The only freak I am now...is a Creedfreak :)

BTW, Marlsy, I LOVE your avatar!

Wow, that was really brave of you to open up just like that, thanks for sharing that with us. :hugs:

I had a friend who cut herself once, 2 friends actually. It wasn't nice at all to see them go through pain and get to the stage where they had to physicaly hurt themselves. I didn't know what to do, and when you are in that position, you feel helpless and bad that you can't do anything, but there really was nothing I could do, I couldn't do much, as the only person that could help them out of their trouble was themselves. But they pulled through it. Just a shame that they have the scars now. Always there to remind them of what they did.

Sometimes "those scars" aren't always so bad. They remind you of what you got through. I look at them and think God was watching over me and kept me alive, and I am thankful.
My mother-in-law had radiation and has was burned from it badly on her neck. She looks at it everyday and it hurts her. I told her, "Mom, you have a scar. Aren't you glad you are alive to see it? I know I am." You can look at all situations two ways, be thankful or be angry.

Yeah that's true, good point. I guess when I look at their arms I just see and feel the pain that they went through, you know? That's all I can see because I got so emotionally involved, I can't help but feel some of their pain.

i kid in my school accedently cut part of his finger off

why did he cut himself, we will never know, probly because he wasnt looking at the safety rules

I remember one time when it was the last day of school and my class were taking down all the pictures off the wall, there were newspaper clippings hanging from the ceiling, I got up on one chair, and my male friend got up on another chair beside me, he had scissors and I didn't, so I went to grap one newspaper clipping with my hands and he went to grab it with his scissors, and off goes the tip of my finger :thud: Not alot but I can still see the slope where he cut it :roll: It was disgusting there was blood everywhere....:crying:

Anyway, off topic!

I just want to clarify for you all to make sure you have correct information. I am a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor. Self abusing is a symptom - it can occur within a variety of diagnoses which can be severe like schizophrenia or not - intelligence certainly has nothing to do with it - and the people who engage in this behavior are suffering pain and this is a maladaptive coping skill - they don't need to be judged. Mental illness occurs just as any other illness does - people do not ask to be mentally ill nor do they cause it - and they need treatment just as someone with diabetes or heart disease does. I know it doesn't make rational sense how something like that would be helpful to a person but many people engage in senseless behaviors everyday. We need to support not understand.


JOY my friend that was very brave of you to go public with your story but to me that just shows that you have dealt with it appropriately and have integrated it into your history. I am proud of you and happy that you have dealt with it so well. Love ya!

i wanted to appologize to you geek2004 for puting the slapsmiley in
my first post that was wrong please forgive me.
you have many friends here who would be glad to help you in anyway.
just having people to talk with can help a whole lot.
i never get heartburn but last night i ate two peaces of lemon and
it made my chest hurt so bad i thought i was having a heart attack
and i was scared to go to sleep,so i kept thinking about my post
here and it made me sad must be my karma getting back.
take care and we allways will be here for you.

Yes, Joy thank you for sharing! PTSD is a real problem for anyone who has gone through any kind of trauma. Thanks also to Julbright for your educated input. It's not always a mental illness that makes people go through these things. Very seemingly "normal" people who have been traumatised can also have these feelings of worthlessness.

Joy, kudos to you, my dear, for sharing your experiences with us. Very very brave. I have never dealt with this matter and any education on it is always a plus. Thanks to all of you for opening up and telling what you all know.

Thank you for pointing this out - let me rephrase somethings - I was referring to all these syndromes as mental illness when really the origins of things can be quite varying. I still think that mentally ill people are "normal" and can live very normal lives with the right treatment - of course there are varying degrees of everything and there will always be people bedridden for medical illnesses and likewise people impaired by mental illness. I do see what you were saying too though that people who experience trauma may develop a psycholocial response like PTSD and such and those people tecnically weren't mentally ill (biologically speaking) - the environment imposed trauma on them. I think that is what you mean.

The common denominator though is that it isn't something to be judged. Just as some people can be around 15 kids with a cold and never get it but I could look across the room at a kid with a drippy nose and come down with a full blown 2 week long cold - or the person who smokes for 50 years with no diseases caused from it and the person who gets lung cancer after smoking for a small number of years - people's bodies respond differently to things and it is just the way it is.

I am glad to see the outpouring of support for these folks who are talking here!

for the people that ACTUALLY cut....how can they stop from cutting ??

To Joy you are a very brave person to share your experience with us so now let me be the next! I used to cut too. I was much younger though around 13 is when I started and it came form the same thing, a rape! I didn't know how to fully deal with the rape because when it happened I was only 12 years old(I was a virgin) and they were boys I knew from my neighborhood! I never did deal with it or tell me parents so in order to deal I cut. It helped dull the pain of everything else that was reeling around in my brain! I was also drinking all the time! I attempted suidcide when I was 15 but it was more a cry for help than anything even though I felt like I really did just want to die! I was hospitalized for several months and while I was there the rape came to light after 3 years! My mom of course wanted to get into all the legal aspects but I just wanted to move on. It was soon after that that I stopped because I was getting help and seeing a councilor on a regular basis! I learned how to deal with the pain of what had happened and as time went I on Steve showed me what it was all supposed to be about! I met him shortly after! It took alot of time but I've been ok and now have beecome a very strong person because of it!

You folks are brave and I am proud of you. It isn't easy to share those things, and it is obvious to me that you do so in an effort to help others. Thanks. If someone is cutting, they need professional help. It is a serious problem and it won't just go away if you try to make yourself stop. Counselors can be very cool and normal - I am :D - and they can help you sort out what is behind all the pain and get some healthy ways to cope with it.

If someone cuts them selves too deep....can they kill themselves ???

I do see what you were saying too though that people who experience trauma may develop a psycholocial response like PTSD and such and those people tecnically weren't mentally ill (biologically speaking) - the environment imposed trauma on them. I think that is what you mean.
Yes Jul this is what I mean. I hope my post didn't come off as sarcastic. I really do mean it when I thank you for your :2cents:
Uhhh..... Geek, where are the cuts and how much do they bleed? I'm not a nurse or a doctor, but maybe Jen can shed some light on how much blood one can lose without dying???

G2004 can I ask why you are asking this?

I was just wonderin...

Well I genuinely hoping you aren't asking because you are planning on trying.

Yeah I'm abit worried here, Kim. :( Do you know someone that is doing or attempting to do this, or is this happening to you? Because I'm sure most people just don't ask a serious subject like this just because they are curious, is there something wrong? Hope you don't mind me asking but I'm here for you if there is, okay? :hugs:

Kim I also worry about you! Please pm me if you want k? I'm here for you!

G2004, I too am very concerned after going back and reading your posts. As having gone through it, I'm here if you need me. [email protected] if that's the case or the thought even. Please take this thought or process very, very seriously! I believe, Jen or Julie, help me here, you can cut enough to bleed-tragically-I'll say.
To Julie and all of you, thanks for your support. Like I said, I didn't put it there to get mushy, but I appreciate your thoughts and comments. Julie, you are the most caring person. Love ya too! ;) Like you said Julie, by fessing up and relating, I am over it and it's not even an issue.

OMG BTW, when did the avatars get so yummy around here? Kris, love Collin Farrell, his looks, not so much his mouth and actions, but he isssss fine. :eek:

First of all, thank you so much to Joy and Kris for the courage you have to share your stories with us.:hugs:

Kim, I have to say, I'm as concerned as the others are about you. Please feel free to send me a pm if you want or need to talk.:hugs:

This has been a very informative topic. I want to thank those who have had the courage to tell their stories. I think it is time I join in. While I never cut myself, I got close. (I am like Tremo and that needles and sharp objects scare me) But i did hurt myself in other ways. (I wont go into for the sake of not giving anyone any ideas.) But when I read a lot of peoples posts I started to realize that I fit into a lot of the stuff. I did stuff for attention. I did feel very lonely and not a part of anything. I did have ocd. And the final straw was when psycolgocially i became so distraught, that i would eat but the food did not stay down. When I became sick I learned that people do care for me. The thing is, i still have a lot of pain inside. I have tried to find ways of release that arent painful. It is hard to but I know I must go on. I just keep hope that for me things will get better, they are starting to but it is still very hard.