Gay / Lesbian Weddings
 

What do you guys think about all the gay/lesbian weddings that are now getting legalized?

Personally, I think that two girls shouldn't turn to each other without giving me a chance. However, after giving me a chance, well... that's a different story.

And the thought of two guys together is just gross.


H-D :punk2:

It's just WRONG!!! It's sick too, I mean if God wanted people to marry other people of the same sex, he would have made it that way. I have respect for gay/lesbian people, but having a wedding is just carrying it too far!

Personally I don't care about peoples' sexual preferences, but I firmly believe in marriage being between a man and woman. I support the efferts President Bush is taking to ammend the constitution to define marriage as being between a man and woman. My state, Wisconsin, just passed a bill that would define marriage as being between a man and woman in our state constitution. It now moves on to other parts of state government before actually being put on the governor's desk to be signed into law. I'm hoping that gets taken care of.

My opinion is that gays/lesbians have the right to suffer from marriage just as much as we heterosexuals do!

I am all for gay marriges.

a) When they are married they get different tax breaks and rights than civil unions, first of all, and two gay peopel who live liek family should be treated like one in the eye of govornment.

b) "God says..." argument is invalid because there is separation of church and state in this country. Why should gay non-Christian couple be dicated when they can or cannot die based on the book that they find to be irrlevant?

c) I think gay people get enough bullshit from this world already, and passing anti gay marrige law is, really, just another form of gay bashing.

d) If you want people to accept YOU for who you are, you should accept them for what they are. Treat others how you would like to be treated yourself, right? People alwasy talk abotu how diverse and accepting this country is, and yet people seem to have problem accepting and give same rights to people who differ from them just based on who they prefere to sleep with.

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I couldn't have said it better!!!

Well...I'm 100% against gay marriages. God didnt want it to be that way. If you dont want to hear the "God says..." part, then think of it this way, a man and a woman can have sex and have kids, so it works out. But two men or two women cant have sex and produce kids, so that tells me that homosexuality isn't right, because if it was, then obviously gays could physically have kids. Another thing is that it is just plain gross :pukey:

There are a lot of heterosexual couples nowadays who couldn't have kids either... what do you think of them? Are they cursed or what? Are they going to hell because they have sex but doesn't "produce" any kids??? :rolleyes:
Boy you better read point D from Lechium's post again! Although point B wasn't that bad either :)

You know what I think of homosexuality?? It's a natural kind of birthcontrol because the world gets overpopulated... It's nature's reaction!(Oh man I wish I could write the things in my head in straight Dutch right now LOL!! Can't find the right english words for a lot of things :rolleyes: )

Lech you're post is outstanding!!!!! :thumbsup:

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hold on a second. i never said that heterosexual couples who cant have kids were cursed and going to hell. I have deep sympathy for those couples, i would be devastated to know that i couldnt have kids. And I never said anything even remotely close to anything about heterosexuals who couldnt have kids in that post.

:rolleyes: What's the logic of this statement???

Lechium wins

Just curious, what about those people who don't believe in marriage and simply live together as family (Oprah comes to mind as one who everyone would recognize)?

See the link below.

As if other "groups" of people don't face bullshit?


Read this: http://www.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=6825
This pretty much sums up my opinion on this.

I say live and let live. They aren't hurting me or anyone else. If they love each other and want to be in a committed relationship, what is the harm? I am not getting into a religious debate about this.

Well said, Lechium.

Steve, I read that link and it seems a bit contradictory. In one breath he says respect the traditions of the super-majority and in another he says protect the rights of the minority. So, does that mean the traditions of the super-majority (slavery comes to mind) should be respected when they are out and out wrong? I don't buy that guy's arguments at all. That would leave the super-majority to determine the rights of the minority without regard to what the minority wants. Sounds like oppression to me.

In the link, I was referring more to the point that marriage is a tradition that surpases religion and that it should be respected as such.

So is it oppression to the super-majority every time a minority is given what they want, regardless of what the majority wants?

I feel the same way!

'Steve, that's all well and good, but what about people who are in the minority? Don't they matter? And why are those in the majority so offended by the thought of two people sharing a life of love through marriage? Why do they even care? Because for most of those it DOES come back to religion. And in that guy's argument, he couches his bias by using the word *tradition*.

If they are running the show, then no, it isn't because in most cases the majority get what they want. I just don't see the big deal of allowing same-sex marriages. And I loathe the fact that the administration chooses to focus on this issue when there are far more serious issues to tackle.

I hate to change the topic, but I view using a minority status to gain priviledge just as much oppression as the oppositve view as well. For instance, affirmative action. Why should certain people be given jobs, scholarshps, or anything for that matter based upon a certain item (race, sexual preference, etc.)? I was unable to attend a certain university because i could not afford the cost, while someone else from my highschool was able to attend that university because they received a scholarship - solely because they are labeled a minority. Is this right?

I agree that this administration is focusing on this issue when there are more important things to be discussed, however since a majority of Americans (from recent polls) are against same-sex marriages, it's an issue that he can win over the public with. It's all politics... (although I'm not sure if a majority are in favor of amending the Constitution?)

I don't care if same-sex partners are given all the same legal rights as married people. In fact, I encourage that. Let them split the bills 50/50 and fight over who gets the house when they separate. However I think that marriage is a tradition and should be left that way.

Regardless of the separation of church and state, this country was founded on religious principles. This is one religious principle that needs to stay intact.

So, Lechium, do you believe that homosexuality is something that is bred in certain people or that it is a concious decision people have to make (hetero, bi, homo, etc.)?


H-D :punk2:

Steve, I agree that affirmative action is flawed. Nothing's ever perfect, but it originated because of the oppression of minorities, in this case, black people. I think the original intent was in good faith, to even things up a little more, or to at least have the workplace reflect the population, which isn't all white. I think that without it, we would revert to the way it was pre-Affirmative Action, at least in attitude. It might not be as blatant as it was back then, but it hasn't really gone away. It's just more subtle, and until racism disappears, I think Affirmative Action should remain in some form. I have seen it work both ways.

And I'm definitely not in favor of a Constitutional amendment regarding marriage, at least not until the Equal Rights Amendment is added ;).

I agree with Dogstar and Lechium on this one, gay couples deserve the same rights as straight couples

lol thats awesome

...and comin' out of a Mor(m?)ons mouth!!! What else can you expect? LMAO!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Dogstar, I also do agree strongly with your posts! :thumbsup:

From what I saw so far it looks like it is not a choice. Some people speculate about ressesive gay gene that shows up in some people, others have other theories. The fact is people just notice one day that they are atracted more to same sex than to opposite, rather than make a concious descidion to become gay just for the hell of it.

There are gay animals too, if you havent noticed, so like it or not, but gay are aboslutley natural. You can say that their activities do not lead to making kids, but even with estimated 5+% of gay people Earth is about to get over populated, so I dont think that this is such a big factor after all.

First of, it will NEVER be a same-sex marriage because marriage is not defined by the state, but by the church. So if they do legalize 'same-sex marriages' it will ONLY be a civil union. Good luck trying to find a church that will actually marry a homosexual couple.

Bush proposed a constitutional amendment that marriage be defined and everyone, and their third cousin's mother-in-law got thier panties in a bunch. The president can propose as many amendments as he wants, but according to his role..defined by the constitution, he has absolutely NO role in constitutional amendments. he cannot even be in the same building as the constituents. To top that off, all amendments must be ratified by 2/3rds of the states, not the populous.

I am 100% against the practice of homosexuality. I personally think it is disgusting. But then again, thats only my personaly belief. I do believe that they are entitled to the same rights as we are. I dont believe anyone deserves anything, I believe we all have to earn the things we want. The chain of 'shot gun' marriages in San Francisco, IMO, is only harming thier cause. They want us to take them serious and allow them to have the same 'marriage' rights we do.... but they do so by mocking it. Then you see some gay rights activists who have the audacity to go on national tv and compare this to civil rights stand offs in the south. Just when you formulate enough pity to support them, they go out and do something incredibly stupid and lose all credibility. Those are my two cents.

Like steve said, this country was formed by religous and ethical principles. If you do completely remove all the factors that our founding fathers used when creating this country... you get, in one word, Canada. [and thats not meant as an insult]

As for affirmaive action, that to me, seems like the biggest slap in the face. Im a minority and I am completely against affirmative action. I dont see why I have to be awarded special treatment on the basis of my skin pigmentation, country of origin, preferance in food, or my native tongue. Its not the "American Dream" when it is just handed to me.

Wow, that was worded beautifully. :clap:

why do you guys always say that!! gay Girls its Like Whoooooooooooooo!! And then the gay guy thing is just gross

And Again whooooo Awsome

I wont turn this in to Relgious Debate Again!!! I LOVE GAY PEOPLE :D

Because we are men and horny. There is no real justification as why one form of homosexuality is ok yet another is wrong. I look at it as because we are comparing two people we are attracted to as opposed to two that we are not.

and yes, we are that shallow.

That's very obvious Mullet!! :D At least you admitt it!

<~~ skirt chaser

LOL!!! :rolleyes:

hahaha Yes at least he does it admit it I admire The truth :D

People aren't born gay (God doesn't hate us that much), it's obviously a conscious choice by these people. if homosexuality were right, how would reproduction through sex (the means of reproduction which God created) be possible? This is all a simple matter of Adam and Eve vs. Adam and Steve. I'm adamantly opposed to homosexuality and any form of homosexual unions, one of the reasons I'm voting for G.W. And affirmative action is wrong, too. It's like an extreme reaction to all the white supremacy that used to exist in this nation (and still, to a very very reduced degree, does). I find it appalling. And you're allowed to have 'historically all-black colleges', and 'historically all-female colleges', but God forbid any schools only permit the entrance of males and/or whites!

Oh yes but of course its just going to keep going and going and going!!! Hahahaha I can Fore See It!!!