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TrulyAmazing 10-04-2010 11:22 AM

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Scott Stapp of 2000 maybe. The Scott Stapp of today can't do anything to help this album. I don't think Freddie Murcurey could save this album, even if he dawned rainbow shorts.

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Evil_wizzzard 10-04-2010 12:57 PM

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TrulyAmaizing needs to be banned. He's poisoning all threads with sick nonsense.

RangerJim 10-04-2010 01:30 PM

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TrulyAmaizing needs to be banned. He's poisoning all threads with sick nonsense.


I know that it's a "she" and am starting to wonder how long the insane asylum employees let her stay on the computer...I for one really enjoy AB III. As I said before, Mark's riffs are superb. Either way both bands complete my world, after my wife of course.

nagpo 10-04-2010 01:46 PM

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Go the TABN forum and there is a poll for responses and a great deal of people have this album at a 4-5. Litterally like 20% of voters chose "Utter Perfection". I'd ask them to explain how that is. But I don't feel like smelling Tremo's balls right now. I'll wait untilo some of them brush their teeth.

I know what you mean. But what do you expect, you go to a forum that holds the most die hard AB fans and expect them not to be like that? The great thing about CreedFeed, is that whether its a Creed album or AB album, at first, most of us all hate it. lol.

I listened to it a second time today, it was a little better. But man, it just cant hold my attention.

nagpo 10-04-2010 01:47 PM

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I know that it's a "she" and am starting to wonder how long the insane asylum employees let her stay on the computer...

I actually do believe she is in some sort of mental asylum. I'm kinda curious as to why she has not been banned myself. I know she has friends on this site, I wanna know how they understand her posts.

Inspired 10-04-2010 02:24 PM

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I think the two bands existing would make sense if they really sounded different.

I also wonder if the rushing to get the album done and the writing in parts contributed to the suckiness. It's like Tremonti has a cool metal riff and Myles has an anthemic chorus so they just stuck them together. It doesn't work.

I just don't get why Tremonti says things, like how WAWO was just a filler song and overplayed and then AB releases the single Wonderful Life that is the exact same kind of song. We are they so concerned with mass appeal especially when they have two bands?

To address the other discussion. I don't think Creed can be a full time band given the deterioration of Stapp's voice.

Buried And Gone 10-04-2010 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspired
I think the two bands existing would make sense if they really sounded different.

I also wonder if the rushing to get the album done and the writing in parts contributed to the suckiness. It's like Tremonti has a cool metal riff and Myles has an anthemic chorus so they just stuck them together. It doesn't work.

I just don't get why Tremonti says things, like how WAWO was just a filler song and overplayed and then AB releases the single Wonderful Life that is the exact same kind of song. We are they so concerned with mass appeal especially when they have two bands?

To address the other discussion. I don't think Creed can be a full time band given the deterioration of Stapp's voice.


I forget exactly what song. But there is a song on this album that literally is the WAWO intro just picked differently. Also, the last creed album and AB III sound nothing similar. Polar oposites actually. Full Circle was good. AB III wasn't. Lol.

Buried And Gone 10-04-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nagpo
I know what you mean. But what do you expect, you go to a forum that holds the most die hard AB fans and expect them not to be like that? The great thing about CreedFeed, is that whether its a Creed album or AB album, at first, most of us all hate it. lol.

I listened to it a second time today, it was a little better. But man, it just cant hold my attention.


I'm just upset that we were told it was heavy when it's not.

Also, I expect from them what I expect from everybody. Rational thought. Not instant erections because it was tremo's name on it.

nagpo 10-04-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buried And Gone
I forget exactly what song. But there is a song on this album that literally is the WAWO intro just picked differently. Also, the last creed album and AB III sound nothing similar. Polar oposites actually. Full Circle was good. AB III wasn't. Lol.

That would be Life Must Go On. Sounds extremely similar to WAWO.

Tremontiriffs77 10-04-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buried And Gone
I'm just upset that we were told it was heavy when it's not.

Also, I expect from them what I expect from everybody. Rational thought. Not instant erections because it was tremo's name on it.


----I think the album was pretty heavy for them..I mean Metalingus is like one of their heaviest songs..Slip to the void is an amazing song as well as I know It hurts, Ghosts of days, and Coer d' Alene..I get hooked the more I listen..There are a lot of fillers..no doubt..But I think these songs plus Isolation is not a bad effort..Although I do agree it should have been a bit heavier---

TrulyAmazing 10-04-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buried And Gone
I'm just upset that we were told it was heavy when it's not.

Also, I expect from them what I expect from everybody. Rational thought. Not instant erections because it was tremo's name on it.

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rabidgopher04 10-04-2010 11:08 PM

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I don't know if this crosses the lines of forum rules (Steve, please delete this post if it is, apologies in advance), but could someone PM me a link to a working torrent for AB III? Thanks!

Inspired 10-04-2010 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buried And Gone
I forget exactly what song. But there is a song on this album that literally is the WAWO intro just picked differently. Also, the last creed album and AB III sound nothing similar. Polar oposites actually. Full Circle was good. AB III wasn't. Lol.



I don't think the albums sounds the same as much as they as it is the exact same style and format. It mostly sounds like two different bands, but both bands' albums are the same idea- athemic radio rock with some heavy riffs and songs thrown in. If AB is the more "creative" band that is not so concerned with record sales, why do they put in all that pop/soft rock/anthemic stuff in there?

That is also what I meant by Wonderful Life being like WAWO, it's not so much the sound as it's the same type of song. Sappy, anthemic soft rock. I think that Life Must Go On is the same type of song as Higher (and I think they do sound a little alike too). To put it another way it's like Life Must Go On is this album's Higher.

I thought the point of AB was to get away from all that.

Unforgiven Fan 10-05-2010 02:23 AM

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Yeah there maybe hints of creed in ab III (from what I heard so far) but i am tired of hearing that reference.

It's anthemic rock, uninspired, and bland considering Blackbird. Sounds like the songs were rush, almost sound the same, bad mix, and a very muddled sound (doubt it was my source).

The songs dont have an indiviudal identity to them (no good licks, rifts, hooks, etc). There is no distinct variety i would say (heavy, soft, it does not matter as long as it sounds good )

I would say its an okay record but I wish they had more time to do this. They are not really going to tour in the states until next fall (maybe), so they had time to sit on it and polish it and get done with side projects (that includes Creed)

Words Darker, Wonderful Life, and Isolation are the stand out tracks so far they do tend to rise out of the muddle mess as of right now. I am sure that this will grow, its Alter Bridge after all.

RangerJim 10-05-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unforgiven Fan
Yeah there maybe hints of creed in ab III (from what I heard so far) but i am tired of hearing that reference.

It's anthemic rock, uninspired, and bland considering Blackbird. Sounds like the songs were rush, almost sound the same, bad mix, and a very muddled sound (doubt it was my source).

The songs dont have an indiviudal identity to them (no good licks, rifts, hooks, etc). There is no distinct variety i would say (heavy, soft, it does not matter as long as it sounds good )

I would say its an okay record but I wish they had more time to do this. They are not really going to tour in the states until next fall (maybe), so they had time to sit on it and polish it and get done with side projects (that includes Creed)

Words Darker, Wonderful Life, and Isolation are the stand out tracks so far they do tend to rise out of the muddle mess as of right now. I am sure that this will grow, its Alter Bridge after all.



Wonderful Life isn't very good, heard it all before... As of now, the one I'm surprised that hasn't been mentioned anywhere as a favourite is Coeur D'Alene. Mark's riffs remind me of a few songs off of One Day Remains and this contains one of the smoothest chorus transitions on the album also has a Full Circle sounding intro with the bass notes being played. Another favourite of mine is Still Remains. This tracks bridge is just pure Metal and Tremonti really shines plus it reminds me of Slipknot(the band on the All hope is gone album) and Creed mixed together. Another is Show Me A Sign which also contains some superb riffs and chords.

Inspired 10-05-2010 10:36 AM

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I think Slip to the Void is by far the best song, it's unusual, heavy and creative and doesn't sound like every other rock band on the radio. If they can write songs this good the rest of the album shouldn't suck so much. The song is melodic so there is no need for that anthem crap. I really don't like how they are playing down to their audience.

RangerJim 10-05-2010 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Inspired
I think Slip to the Void is by far the best song, it's unusual, heavy and creative and doesn't sound like every other rock band on the radio. If they can write songs this good the rest of the album shouldn't suck so much. The song is melodic so there is no need for that anthem crap. I really don't like how they are playing down to their audience.


They're trying hard to get noticed that's for sure. You have to give in to some degree with what today's general music "fans" like because if they didn't it would end up like One Day Remains, which is superb, but no one knew the band all that well, and let's be honest, people still don't know them...

Inspired 10-05-2010 12:21 PM

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But isn't that what Creed is for?

And do today's music fans really like that anthemic sound? I thought that is why people don't like Creed, because of that over the top arean rock "notice us" sound.


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Originally Posted by RangerJim
They're trying hard to get noticed that's for sure. You have to give in to some degree with what today's general music "fans" like because if they didn't it would end up like One Day Remains, which is superb, but no one knew the band all that well, and let's be honest, people still don't know them...


nagpo 10-05-2010 03:56 PM

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I don't think there is a specific reason people don't like Creed. It's just pure unjustified hate, imo.

Inspired 10-05-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nagpo
I don't think there is a specific reason people don't like Creed. It's just pure unjustified hate, imo.


I think there tends to be a few reasons that are consistently said as to why people dislike Creed. That's not to say that everyone has the same reasons or there aren't other reasons, but some of the same reasons are heard over and over.

nagpo 10-05-2010 05:47 PM

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So far, the songs I llike on this album are Slip to the void, Isolation, Ghost of days gone by, All hope is gone, Wonderful Life, And words Darker than their wings.

The song I see being the most popular on the radio is Ghost of Days gone by. It has that kinda sound.

Chris98GT 10-05-2010 06:33 PM

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The best of AB III destroys the best of Full Circle IMO.

Evil_wizzzard 10-06-2010 05:35 AM

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there is no best in ABIII, only the worst. Even the so-called anthems and ballads are like child's cry compered to mediocre Creed songs. There is no rhythm, no melodies, no sense in the lyrics, only Kennedy's pathetic sugary vocals, Marks riffs, some upbeat drumming and bass playing. ABIII isn't an album, it's a compilation of different parts, that doesn't fit together. Ergo it sounds unfinished, unpolished. To listen to ABIII is like eating frozen vegetables, instead of a well cooked meal. One can only get sick by consuming it.

Evil_wizzzard 10-06-2010 05:35 AM

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there is no best in ABIII, only the worst. Even the so-called anthems and ballads are like child's cry compered to mediocre Creed songs. There is no rhythm, no melodies, no sense in the lyrics, only Kennedy's pathetic sugary vocals, Marks riffs, some upbeat drumming and bass playing. ABIII isn't an album, it's a compilation of different parts, that doesn't fit together. Ergo it sounds unfinished, unpolished. To listen to ABIII is like eating frozen vegetables, instead of a well cooked meal. One can only get sick by consuming it.

Evil_wizzzard 10-06-2010 05:39 AM

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What the hell happened with so many posts? Please delete or skip the shit.

rabidgopher04 10-06-2010 06:12 AM

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I'd like to hear Myles hold that long note in Ghost of Days Gone By live. That's amazing. I will concur that at first it sounded like a bunch of songs put together and not an actual album, but the more I listen the more I get over that. I applaud them for trying something different, but on the other hand I feel lied to. I thought it was supposed to be their heaviest album ever and it clearly isn't. I think Blackbird was a better album.

Chris98GT 10-06-2010 06:50 AM

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Alright wizzzard, we get it. You love Stapp, the guy who can no longer sing. Spare us the analogies that don't make any fucking sense.

TrulyAmazing 10-06-2010 10:19 AM

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Alright wizzzard, we get it. You love Stapp, the guy who can no longer sing. Spare us the analogies that don't make any fucking sense.

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Evil_wizzzard 10-06-2010 10:37 AM

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i do not love Stapp and I do not fish here for acceptance. That is not the point. I like good music, that to me is manifested in Creed and early AB (ODR period), among many other bands. I find the ABIII to be pretty horrible compered with their previous records, ergo the dissatisfaction and criticism as I believe they can do and should have done better. The key for them is to figure it out all over again - how not to be so complicated and overdeveloped musicians and still produce those simple yet therefore magical tunes. That's why I like Stapp so much. He's a simpleton and can inspire you with his naivite, passion and innocence. Simplicity is beautiful and all good music is simple. But once you get in the overcomplicated and overdeveloped mode, all simplicity is lost and what you get is counterfeit art, that makes you look for riffs, hooks, bridges, some special effects etc., but not the whole thing. Even Full Circle has been suffering from this disease.
So the main question is this - how to rediscover simplicity in the midst of all the acquired complexities and experiences? Creed has a better chance at this.

TrulyAmazing 10-06-2010 11:23 AM

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So far, the songs I llike on this album are Slip to the void, Isolation, Ghost of days gone by, All hope is gone, Wonderful Life, And words Darker than their wings.

The song I see being the most popular on the radio is Ghost of Days gone by. It has that kinda sound.

:) , cant wait, I cant Preoder Ya,alls...:D if i like got a temporay replacement, it would max out my card in the mail, AB NATION :laugh: ....:rockon:

Inspired 10-06-2010 11:53 AM

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I do really like Fallout, Show Me a Sign, All Hope is Gone and Words Darker than their Wings as well. Still Remains is ok although I think the chorus is a little too anthemic compared to the sound of the rest of the song.

I just irks me that they can write these songs that are really good, but then they bring the album down by putting those radio friendly anthemic songs on there and forcing anthemic chorus' in with heavy verses and bridges. It sounds very piecemeal and like a pop band that like "were cool because we have some metal riffs in our radio songs". Just because Human Clay and Higher were successful do they have to have these anthemic chours' in every project they do? Why are they so afraid to make a straight up heavy album. It's kind of wimpy in my opinion.

INDIGOSTEVE 10-06-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspired
I do really like Fallout, Show Me a Sign, All Hope is Gone and Words Darker than their Wings as well. Still Remains is ok although I think the chorus is a little too anthemic compared to the sound of the rest of the song.

I just irks me that they can write these songs that are really good, but then they bring the album down by putting those radio friendly anthemic songs on there and forcing anthemic chorus' in with heavy verses and bridges. It sounds very piecemeal and like a pop band that like "were cool because we have some metal riffs in our radio songs". Just because Human Clay and Higher were successful do they have to have these anthemic chours' in every project they do? Why are they so afraid to make a straight up heavy album. It's kind of wimpy in my opinion.

very well said dito

Inspired 10-06-2010 04:43 PM

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very well said dito


Thanks, I'm glad I'm not alone in my frustration!

Chris98GT 10-06-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspired
[It] just irks me that they can write these songs that are really good, but then they bring the album down by putting those radio friendly anthemic songs on there...

Why are they so afraid to make a straight up heavy album. It's kind of wimpy in my opinion.

I agree, but it's not the occasional radio friendly song that bothers me. It's the filler material that consists of forgettable verses & a plodding, bland chorus that I truly don't understand.

Sadly, I think the closest we'll get to an all-heavy record is Blackbird. The 1-2 punch of Ties That Bind and Come To Life is the best in modern rock history. They need more of that. Are they afraid of alienating a huge part of their fan base who came over with Creed? Probably. Creed was the same way. Always saying they were "hard rock" but then putting 1-2 heavy songs on a CD at most.

An entire album of songs similar to Ties, Come To Life, Coming Home, Isolation... my god... that would be phenomenal. Do they have it in them? I think so. They need to just do it already.

Inspired 10-06-2010 08:49 PM

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I agree, but it's not the occasional radio friendly song that bothers me. It's the filler material that consists of forgettable verses & a plodding, bland chorus that I truly don't understand.

Sadly, I think the closest we'll get to an all-heavy record is Blackbird. The 1-2 punch of Ties That Bind and Come To Life is the best in modern rock history. They need more of that. Are they afraid of alienating a huge part of their fan base who came over with Creed? Probably. Creed was the same way. Always saying they were "hard rock" but then putting 1-2 heavy songs on a CD at most.

An entire album of songs similar to Ties, Come To Life, Coming Home, Isolation... my god... that would be phenomenal. Do they have it in them? I think so. They need to just do it already.


I agree! And the thing that annoys me about Blackbird is that the early versions of the Come to Life, Ties that Bind and Buried Alive that they played before the CD was released during the European tour were even heavier. It was like they purposely watered them down.

Maybe they are worried about alienating their fan base, but does AB really need a huge mainstream fan base if Creed is going to exist again. Leave that to Creed that already has that reputation and do something different/cool with AB.

TheGreatDivide 10-06-2010 10:14 PM

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I'm listening to the stream right now and to be honest I'm finding these songs to be heavy for what it is, but I've been thinking instead of musically heavy what about lyrically & emotionally heavy. Remember this album is basically about a guy going through these ranges of emotions and sadly I'm that guy right now. Every song on this album hits what I'm going through, especially Wonderful Life. Experiencing this first hand, these songs are pretty heavy.

TrulyAmazing 10-06-2010 10:19 PM

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Thanks, I'm glad I'm not alone in my frustration!

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Inspired 10-07-2010 10:40 AM

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I don't know if that is all the band meant by heavy, particularly with Tremonti supposedly being a metalhead. In general I found the lyrics to be simplistic although some are better than others. "Do you cry for the ghost of days gone by" and "well all fall sometimes...I know it hurts" is really sappy and not my idea of heavy.



I guess that people who like them because of their anthemic/light stuff would like this. I started liking Creed because of their heavy sound, in fact it was how I started getting into heavier stuff. It's ironic to me that they are getting further and further away from that now.

TrulyAmazing 10-07-2010 03:13 PM

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I don't know if that is all the band meant by heavy, particularly with Tremonti supposedly being a metalhead. In general I found the lyrics to be simplistic although some are better than others. "Do you cry for the ghost of days gone by" and "well all fall sometimes...I know it hurts" is really sappy and not my idea of heavy.



I guess that people who like them because of their anthemic/light stuff would like this. I started liking Creed because of their heavy sound, in fact it was how I started getting into heavier stuff. It's ironic to me that they are getting further and further away from that now.

music is an art, rock n roll, is a feeling of that unseen you cant grab it you cant see you can only feel it, which is the soundtrack of the revelations, its to and fro, so if one gets further and further from a sound, thats always subject to change, music was not carved in stone, but moves freely from one artist to the other, .......:rockon:

FreedomFighter 10-07-2010 03:53 PM

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Does the vibe remind anyone else of M4's Second Skin album? Definitely "artsy" and "dynamic," but not really heavy.

So far it's alright. I'll have to go through a couple more times...


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