News on the single, record, and Steve Karas
 

Just emailed Steve Karas at windup. Didn't expect a reply so quickly. Here's what I got:

"Hi there – Steve is no longer with WIND UP, but I can help you.



We should have Single #1 in mid August and album in mid October.



That’s unfortunately all I have for now."

This came from a Bill Richards over at Wind-Up.

So not only is the single coming late the ALBUM won't be out til October?! AND Steve isn't with Wind-Up anymore?!?!?!

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Wow. that's all I have to say.

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I can't believe this at all...

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just emailed bill about the reasoning behind the late release. i will keep everyone posted

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Well this is a bit surprising. No single until August. They will embark on a new tour without any new music or a new album in sight. I guess we will have to wait. It is too bad that they could not at least release a single sooner.

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yeah i know. im still hoping that this isnt a set in stone piece of info but im having doubts

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duddlefuc* is all i have to say as a reaction to this. erggg

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^^^haha i think that is appropriate

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That guy must of gotten the bands mixed up. What's the point of reforming to do are tour and an album only to have the tour finish before the album is out??

And Flip said a 2 weeks or so. He would know how close to being complete the thing is!!!!

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what band would he have mixed up Creed with?

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^lol. I suggest everyone contacting WU about this because the fans have a strong voice in my opinion.

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^^^^AMEN. Everyone get ur message heard!

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Don't know Wind up doesn't have much besides Creed and Seether. Aug to Oct is the Tour maybe he looked at those dates instead.

I Looked last nite our time and I could pretty much sit anywhere at any show I wanted. I will watch some more shows as I will drive East to West. Even my Pittsburgh tix I bought 2months ago still can sit anywhere.

This wont change without new fans and that will come with new music

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Ok, we can all send Wind-up a message saying we are POed and we want new tunes but look at it this way Wind-up gets pressured the band gets pressured and that could lead to them to "rush" the record and put out sub par quality music. They are already doing this in less than 8 months time. Its been almost 8 years for a new music let them take there time and do it right, we can wait a few more weeks.

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it would be different had we not already been given release dates for the single. mark and scott both said june 22. that obviously didnt happen. and then brian said in about 2 weeks, and that was about 2 weeks ago. so if we had ABSOLUTLEY no info, i can understand. but we've been given two time periods that have not been met either time. thats a problem.

now, if they are fine tuning it or what not, thats completely fine. but they need to TELL THE FANS!!!! Creed and wind-up need to make an official statement addressing a few things:

A) What the delay is on the single and why it was not released when it was said it was going to be.

B) When the OFFICIAL, no bull release date of the single is

C) Same as part B, only concerning the record.

D) Shed light on why certain shows still do not have ticket sales up.

If Creed came out and addressed all of these points, people would be much happier right now. But because no one knows anything, people are getting pissed. And that's not good for an upcoming tour at all.

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Just like old times! This is exactly how it was when the band was big several years ago.

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^^^I didnt know that lol. When Creed was huge i was but a small lad lol

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This seems like a stupid decision on wind-ups part. No wonder ticket sales are doing badly and shows are being canceled.....people have not been given a reason to buy tickets. The reason? well the whole point of performing a concert is to promote the music and to make big cash. Older people have already seen the old music. The younger generation only hears the negative comments about creed and the older people haven't been given a reason to see them again. Solution? Release new friggin music Creed! A single release before the concert would not only promote the concert but give fans old and young alike a reason to go see them played live. Why the hell do I have to explain this to a record label? Jeez, Wind-Up sucks.

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well the record label is a bunch of stuck up people who care more about money than music. but apparently they missed business 101 cuz i havent take it but im pretty sure one of the first rules is "if u wanna be rich by selling something, promote it as much as possible"

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Haha yeah, really. This is why Alter Bridge was so happy to get away from them to another label. Wind-Up runs things very poorly.

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^^^I wonder if Creed has contemplated this before. jumping ships i mean

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So let me get this straight..Im am going to Creed September 25th with no new album to jam in the car on the way? only to hear the single on the radio?? WTF!! I have payed to see Creed play all their hits 4 times now, I WANT NEW MUSIC!! If this dude at Wind-Up is telling the truth, this tour is setting up to fail...Countdown to "Alter Bridge lll" has begun...

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yeah i hope he was wrong...

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I wish I didn't read this...

I'm so annoyed.

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I just noticed that it says on Creed.com "New album out in Fall 2009." Don't know if that was there before.

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I just saw that, Fall could mean Oct, November..This is so dumb, Hey guys maybe they will play the new songs on the tour, but we have to buy tickets to hear the album. FAIL!

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Other bands have debuted new songs while touring but it's usually a surprise, not part of a big planned campaign lol.

Now their FB page says Fall 2009 too.

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Hi Everyone -

I am a friend of both Mark and Mike T. and they have asked if I would assist in keeping you guys informed with the most accurate information available for what is upcoming for the guys with touring, as well as the album and single. I understand that you have a ton of questions that need answers. I will work diligently to be able to get those for you in a reasonable amount of time. I look forward to a great tour and wonderful album from these guys. I know they have been working their tails off in the studio trying to finish all of the album tracks. So please hang in there and as soon as I start receiving the info I will distribute it to you.
All the best,
LexMusic

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I guess obviously the first thing we'd all like to know is a firm release date for the first single and the album. If Mark and Mike could shed some light on that, it'd be much appreciated.

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^^^yes. is the info of a single release in august and an album release in october legit? or not?

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Let's just say a lot of fans are upset about the delayed news and release dates. Also the news that everything has been pushed back to August/October. That's the million dollar question, is the album really coming out in October? (which is when the tour ends.)

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I don't know why people are pissed for. Sure they said early on there were specific dates they were looking at, but seriously they just announced the reunion. It takes time to write, record, produce, etc. an album. Just be patient. Why wish for something rushed and potentially sound like it was rushed when you can just sit back and wait a few more months for something of the quality you expect from Creed. I mean you've been waiting for 10 years, you can wait a few more months... :)

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I think people are pissed just due to the lack of information, not the music itself. if there was an explanation out as to what the delay is, i think people would be a lot more content waiting. But because we r all kinda flying blind atm, people are starting to get nervous and a little annoyed at the situation and how poorly it is being managed. Now, had the band members NOT released or said dates on which things would happen, that would be different. But because that's what the band said and we want to trust them, we believed what was said. and when that didnt happen, people became upset and demanded to know what the deal was. and since no statement has been released, thats just throwing fuel on the fire IMO

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Info from LexMusic via PM. it reads:

""I have spoken to them recently. Mark is still in studio finishing up vocals and melodies with Stapp. Still waiting to hear when the Album / Single release dates are. I will let everyone know when I hear it myself. All the best...
LexMusic"

:D Mark vocals FTW!!!

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Jonas Brothers

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lol i would hope not

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Just e-mailed this guy, hoping to get correct information this time or maybe something totally different.

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^^^awesome just keep us posted :D

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Michael Tremonti over at ABB forums just sent me this message:

"There is a guy close to us that Creed hired to give you guys the scoop. He posted on Creedfeed and he is legit. His name on there is LexMusic.

All I know is that the music for the album has been done for a while. Vocals are what they have been working on for some time now. No clue how long it will take."

He then immediately posted this on my thread that I started over there about the new single (this one lol):

"I want to confirm that LexMusic on the CreedFeed forums is, indeed, a friend of the band. He will be your information source for Creed from this point forward. As you all know, I'm strictly AB so all Creed questions can go to him. He just started yesterday so give him some time and soon you all will have a source for Creed with him as you have a source for Alter Bridge with me.

Michael"

So everyone, it looks like we will soon have a solid source on everything Creed! Thanks again to Michael and LexMusic, u two are definately helping out the waiting process!

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Ok. I have found out some news... but nothing that most of you do not already know. Spoke with a person close to the camp and they told me, regarding single and album release date, that no date was concrete as of yet. The only solid info is the name of the album, Full Circle. I will be in touch as soon as something new arises. On a side note, I have heard this is by far the heaviest Creed album written to date!!! I do get excited about that!
All the Best,
LexMusic