"Creed morphed into Scott Stapp" *1st post edited*
 

Another quote from the classy, high-roader mate of ours...


ETA: Ok, just one more thing coz I need to be fair. It just came to my knowledge that in the same interview Stapp said he still loves Mark and Flip. (11/03/2005).

Well, ya know, I'm obviously not too thrilled with some of the smack talk that he has been making lately. It sucks that he is, well, I hate to say it, a bit "full" of himself. I guess I'm just going to try to judge him by his music, and not the sometimes idiotic(for lack of a better word) things he says.

Well I hate to say it...but I think hes acting (saying those things) this way to get some promotion to his album.... :rolleyes:

just a bit??? lol

Everyday Stapp does his best to lose his non die-hard fans that are still willing to give him another chance.

Haha, alright, so it appears that he is ALOT full of himself. :laugh: Anyway, I am reserving judgment as far as his solo career is concerned. I will judge him by his music, not by the stupid things he has(and probably will continue to) said.

He's quickly becoming a legend in his own mind.

:laugh: Indeed!

that is pr talk...he is trying to get the creed people to buy his album...and in a way putting down flip, tremo, and brian for the contributions to creed and now alterbridge...hes full of himself and I do not like him because of that but I will give his music a chance....

I use to wish that Creed would be back together, but not anymore Myles is so much better than Scott. You know Myles had nothing but nice things to say about Scott. I'll give his music a chance, but I support Alter Bridge.

It's sad and pathetic. He is merely fullfilling all the negative things people used to say about him.

Well sure it morphed into Scott Stapp. It was all about him, the entire Weathered tour was based on whether or not he could perform, he got slammed at every turn, was cut down, cut up, and dissected.

AB even made Creed about him. So yea, I can see where he would make a statement like that. He's got my full support. Besides, it's good therapy for him to get it all out. :)

It's just such a damned shame what pride and egos can do to what was once a brotherhood. :(

I was checking out an old NYROCK interview with Mark Tremonti from 1999, and this is what Mark had to say about the band (including Stapp, of course), back then:

NYROCK:
You guys seemed to have adjusted to the fame rather well. How do you manage to get along with all the touring and recording?

MARK:
We're like four brothers. Our management consists of friends. Most of the people on our label are friends, and it's a far better and easier way to work. I can't imagine what it would be like if it would be all just business. We can fight one minute and get along a moment later. Nobody takes anything wrong and we all understand and know each other.

I don't know if all the truth will ever be known about what brought about their falling out, but I would imagine there was enough blame to go around on all sides. :samurai:

pffffftttt!

I feel sorry for you.

Well, to be honest with you, I don't care what you think. :D It's my opinion, and I like it. Besides, I'm not trying to change yours, so why should you give a damn.

You're entitled to it.

But can't a man worry about his board mates when they're astray?

How come when you make a comment like that people respect it as your opinion. But as soon as I open my mouth it's a total chaos?

THEN CONSIDER ME ASTRAY TOO, THEN.

Dude I totally agree it is good therapy, I mean if you listen to half the lyrics from a alterbride song they are ripping on stapp, in the songs they call out his drinking lying ways and slam him from every direction...I like both AB and Stapp and this whole thing is rediculous. Maybe if Mark spent less time promoting baseball on his blog and more time playing we might have another alterbride CD instead of One day remains tour part 6...two years later.... As far as stapp he still a ass for his part in ruining creed, but you dont have to love the artist to appreciate the music and his album sounds pretty thourough, I enjoyed sorround me and Fight Song...good effort...

shut up, dude! pay attention to what you're saying... get the facts straights before stating an opinion like that.

Tremo and Myles are writing constantly... They just recorded a new song all instrumental for Total Guitar, they have a bunch of finished or ideas for new songs. They already said they'll hit studio in March to release the album by the end of next summer in US.

two years is the time most bands take in between albums.

I agree with you mate, totallyy...lol one day remains tour x 6 hahah so true

Dude,
I got my facts straight both sides are stupid for what has happened to creed. I like AB , but prefer stapps lyraical sound as compared to myles rants of 80's music past. If by listening to the sample of fight son it is not more ever appearant that Stapp does not need his former bandmates to be successful as where alterbridge can sure as hell use a new lead singer...because miles just doesn't cut it..Yeah AB had a few decent songs but nothing that would make you think that they were anything more than a mediocre throwback rock band.. Stapp will have a heck of a solo career and as much as it pains me to say It because I am a big fan of tremonti's, after hearing the guitar work and drums I really don't thimk stapp needs his ex bandmates...I mean sorround me and fight song sounded great and tremonti wasnt even playing in it.You can say what you want about his comments on the radio about AB , but he's right he wrote the lyrics that rocketed creed to the charts and It is amazing how he was able to reproduce creeds sound without those guys being there as where myles who is a good singer just really can't cut it to bring alter bridge to the forefront of really successful bands. Im not knocking myles he has a good voice but he;s a drop in the bucket when trying to replace Platinum sound that Stapp has..period!

You don't use facts! You're explaining your opinion!

Okay its my opininion!!

Ya know, I have been telling people that this is what Scott Stapp is like for a LONG time and you all know its true, so I'm not one to say I told you so but:

I totally told you so!


Wow. What a piece of nonsense. Get your head out of his butt, would you?

Sorry if that crosses any invisible line because I really am not trying to insult anyone but COME ON. If you can justify this, and spew crap about how ODR is about Stapp (give me a break), you really DO think the guy is a god, and when one thinks the biggest moron in music is a god... one needs help.

Wow. What a piece of nonsense. Get your head out of his butt, would you?

Sorry if that crosses any invisible line because I really am not trying to insult anyone but COME ON. If you can justify this, and spew crap about how ODR is about Stapp (give me a break), you really DO think the guy is a god, and when one thinks the biggest moron in music is a god... one needs help.[/quote]

I wouldnt call him a moron, nor a god, simply talented. whether u like it or not.

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Okay this is for Uncertain:

References to Stapp in One Day remains:

1)Find the real-
And all that I've taken
I hunger for more
Cause I'm selfish
And all I'm left with
Is a crown of thorns
And I'm helpless...This is probably a reference to Stapp and his work on Passion of the christ and how he's got nothing else now.

2)There's a face I put on
All my life
The face of an angel
I look in the mirror
Only to find
The face of a stranger...This is obviously another stab at stapp and how he supposively pretends to be someone he's not.

Thats just one song do you want me to keep going....cause I will tear into evry song...So you see AB does take quite a few jabs at Stapp on this album they just do it in a less obvious way !

well your first comment about FTR can just be thrown out the window cus FTR was written before Stapp even did anything with The Passion.... I would guess that these lyrics mean that he always wanted more with creed, and finally it all came crashing down (end of creed/death of his mother), and that all he has left is his spiritual side, which he turned to a little more when his mother passed away.

and your second comment may very well be what he's saying, but i highly doubt it... this is a very universal theme and can apply to 1000's of different situations, and since tremonti has never actually said anything about this i think your chances of guessing what it actually means are very slim, you're supposed to find your own meaning in the lyrics....

"The songs are about things that we were thinking and we
wrote 'em down, and when you listen to 'em, whatever you
think it's about...THAT'S what it's about!"

-- Layne Staley

[quote=Tremontixriffs]

Keep goin Id love to hear more stabs at stapp AB take in their songs, honestly give me some more..

*rolls eyes ludicrously far back into head*

Give me a break. I could take ANY FREAKING SONG EVER and somehow twist its meaning to being about Stapp if I wanted to. That doesn't mean it is. Your attempts at making these things look like songs written about Stapp are downright hilarious.

*Rolls eyes ludicrously far back into head*

Wow. Your just geniuses aren't you? You can take super general songs and fit them to your own meaning? Amazing.

Give me a break.

I didn't get that anyone was saying ODR was about Stapp, though I've read that Alter Bridge has actually admitted it about some songs. I think the poster was saying that Alter Bridge made everything negative about Creed about Stapp. Hell they have been talking smack about the guy for over a year now. Not a real good way to promote yourself. When every interview they do, they talk negatively about an ex-member, then they ARE making it all about Stapp. Though they never seem to remember that their collaboration with Stapp made them rich men.

Row row row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily merrily merrily merrily
life is but a dream.

I'm thinking this song was written about how Stapp was in the rowboat in the My Sacrifice video and how he was gliding through the water and he was happy and his life was dreamy.

For heaven's sake, any lyrics to any song can be taken to mean any freaking thing!!! Stop trying to fuel the us vs. them argument, it's so old.

Haha, I think you should just started listen to Alter Bridge as Alter Bridge. And by saying that I mean that you should listen to Alter Bridge like any other band, and not trying to search for hidden "hating-Stapp"-messanges. I think Mark and Myles are just trying to tell a story here, and I'm sure they don't wanna stab Stapp in the back. Well, Myles really has no reason to.

I really wouldn't care to know the meaning behind any Alter Bridge song. Like I said, they don't have a message as far as I'm concerned, so I don't listen to them AS anything.

LOL, right on!

LOL @ Teri!!!

Dude... Mark had the chorus for Find The Real... he showed it up to Myles one night and on the next morning Myles had finished writing it! He did all of the verses and the bridge. How can be Myles talking about Stapp???

as for "crown of thorns", correct me if I'm wrong but it's just an expression... Myles grew up in church, I'm sure he heard it a ton of times.

I can get those 10 songs and make them related to Alter Bridge as well... You'll get the idea but I won't bother to do it right now...

Really? That is so funny. I have always said that FTR's verses are the best lyrics on the album, and the chorus is one of the worst on the album... lol

I love FTR's verses. Very lyrically good, as well as musicially. The chorus is decent, but the verses/bridge are certainly a whole lot better, imo.