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Bridge of Clay 08-14-2004 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by creedlvr
I'm sure there is a little bit of "fluff" in both Mark and Scott's stories ... but I really tend to believe Scott. Besides, most of what Mark said, does coincide with what Scott said. They both agree that Scott didn't want to tour as much as the others. They both agree that Scott isolated himself from everyone. They both agree that there was no communication. I think that Scott was wrong in not sharing the whole truth with his band members ... but more importantly ... his friends. He should have put more faith in them to understand ... or at least given them a chance. But I think that Mark and Flip were wrong for not realizing that Scott was not just being an asshole and that something was clearly wrong.

Agreed.

Although Mark tried to talk to Stapp and he said nothing, coz he didn't want to talk about it.

In the end of the day, it seems all of it was a big misunderstanding... then JHMP showedup and screwed things up. Creed was too bad managed.

And so did Wind-Up... now they can sell the triple: AB, SS and Creed compilations that will pop up every 3 years or so with unreleased material. :mad:

musiclover291 08-14-2004 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
Agreed.

Although Mark tried to talk to Stapp and he said nothing, coz he didn't want to talk about it.

In the end of the day, it seems all of it was a big misunderstanding... then JHMP showedup and screwed things up. Creed was too bad managed.

And so did Wind-Up... now they can sell the triple: AB, SS and Creed compilations that will pop up every 3 years or so with unreleased material. :mad:

I totally agree outside forces destroyed the band. But I think that it is a good idea for Stapp to be solo so that he can build his life back. I think that is important for him because of his son and that should come first. AB members don't have that responsibilty so they can focus on there music. So at the end day all members are happy. AB should watch out for JHMP management because if AB becomes as huge as Creed here we go again.

creedlvr 08-14-2004 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
In the end of the day, it seems all of it was a big misunderstanding...
That's what makes it even sadder that this happened. I do feel sorry for Scott though because it seems that he really does miss his friends. I just hope that they can eventually repair the damage ... if not to Creed ... then at least to their friendship.

Dogstar 08-14-2004 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by musiclover291
I think that is important for him because of his son and that should come first. AB members don't have that responsibilty so they can focus on there music.
Flip is a daddy. He and his wife have a daughter.

Shadow 08-14-2004 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
In the end of the day, it seems all of it was a big misunderstanding... then JHMP showedup and screwed things up. Creed was too bad managed.
Scott has now mentioned several times people were trying to come between them (him and Mark). He also mentioned "outside influences that benefited some people financially" (not the band) with a break-up announcement.

Scott also said that if those people were not invovled, there wouldn't have been an announcement. He said that they just wanted to take a break.

My first guess who Scott is referring to ***cough Jeff Hanson cough ***

Marcos, this interview where Scott talks about this is over at PBF.

musiclover291 08-14-2004 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogstar
Flip is a daddy. He and his wife have a daughter.

I know I just meant that because Jagger mother has elected not to be a part of his life I think Stapp feels that he needs to be a more hands on father and not tour as much, etc...

creedlvr 08-15-2004 10:28 AM
I agree. When Flip is away, he knows his daughter is in good hands. Still, that doesn't take away from the fact that he, too, might eventually feel like he's missing out on a lot by being away for so long. Remember, his daughter was born (I believe) near the end of the Weathered tour. He doesn't know what it's going to feel like yet to be away from your child so much. It's different for Scott. When he's away, Jagger (I'm sure) is in good hands ... but it's not a parent.

Shadow 08-15-2004 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by creedlvr
I agree. When Flip is away, he knows his daughter is in good hands. Still, that doesn't take away from the fact that he, too, might eventually feel like he's missing out on a lot by being away for so long. Remember, his daughter was born (I believe) near the end of the Weathered tour. He doesn't know what it's going to feel like yet to be away from your child so much. It's different for Scott. When he's away, Jagger (I'm sure) is in good hands ... but it's not a parent.
Flip's daughter was actually born last July. He found out about April being pregnant during the Weathered tour. So, Flip hasn't been away on tour yet since the baby was born.

And as far as Jagger is concerned, Scott has mentioned numerous times that his sister Amanda helped him out alot. She has a child a little bit younger then Jag. But, it's true, it's not a parent.

musiclover291 08-15-2004 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadow
Flip's daughter was actually born last July. He found out about April being pregnant during the Weathered tour. So, Flip hasn't been away on tour yet since the baby was born.

And as far as Jagger is concerned, Scott has mentioned numerous times that his sister Amanda helped him out alot. She has a child a little bit younger then Jag. But, it's true, it's not a parent.

I didn't know Amanda had a child is she married and what is her age, just wondering?

Bridge of Clay 08-15-2004 02:19 PM
doing some thoughts... I don't think Jeff Hanson is the one to blame... otherwise he wouldn't be AB's manager... although, truth be told, in many aspects Creed was bad managed. (CreedInk!). But if the guys kept the same staff, I don't think it's JH's fault.

Creed_Defaultgirl 08-15-2004 03:43 PM
I don't know, it wasn't Flip and Mark who had the health problem, and Scott doesn't have Jeff as a manager anymore. That's a clue to me. If Myles ever has health problems on tour we'll see what happens and then we'll know.

musiclover291 08-15-2004 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Creed_Defaultgirl
I don't know, it wasn't Flip and Mark who had the health problem, and Scott doesn't have Jeff as a manager anymore. That's a clue to me. If Myles ever has health problems on tour we'll see what happens and then we'll know.

Great point. I can't help to wonder if fans saw that something was wrong with Stapp it was so apparent he looked horrible and weight gain, sweating, throat problems etc.. didn't someone care enough to step in. I have to agree with Stapp that it was about money I understand that he didn't open up to Flip and Mark about his problems but come on shouldn't of JH step in to see what the problem was that is why I believe Stapp's version and I think JH knew of his problems but push him to keep touring and maybe WU for the love of money.

shunammite 08-15-2004 05:06 PM
It might not just be crude love of money, in the real world money is important and if you aren't making it things can really go down the toilet...

I'm just saying it might not have been pure greed but more "necessity"...

And maybe no one realized how seriously Scott was affected, he being so strong and athletic...I still can't believe it took such a toll on him but obviously it did, you can still see the effects. And he didn't even want to face his own weakness..."I was trying to be strong"...

Don't we all...

Shadow 08-15-2004 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by musiclover291
I didn't know Amanda had a child is she married and what is her age, just wondering?
Amanda is not married. She is engaged to Kiki. Her daughter is one year younger then Jagger. Amanda is 5 years younger then Scott, making her 26 this year.

musiclover291 08-15-2004 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadow
Amanda is not married. She is engaged to Kiki. Her daughter is one year younger then Jagger. Amanda is 5 years younger then Scott, making her 26 this year.

Thanks for that information. Very cool Kiki seems like a really nice guy and him and Scott seem really close. I wish the best.

aussiecreeder 08-16-2004 12:53 AM
about scott's vocal problems health issues obviously played a part. i don't think his singing technique helped the cause and perhaps his current musical direction and experience will stop that happening again. it won't happen to myles.......

musiclover291 08-16-2004 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by handmedown
about scott's vocal problems health issues obviously played a part. i don't think his singing technique helped the cause and perhaps his current musical direction and experience will stop that happening again. it won't happen to myles.......

Don't be quick to say that you never ever know what can happen in the future to Myles vocally..........

aussiecreeder 08-16-2004 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by musiclover291
Don't be quick to say that you never ever know what can happen in the future to Myles vocally..........


okay fair point but he is trained and he has gone for 10 odd years singing professinally and hasen't encountered any problems thus far.

farmgirl 08-16-2004 07:32 AM
I believe he has/had Tinnitus. That could possible cause some problems down the road but without doing some research...I'm not all that familiar with the long term treatment of it or lasting effects.

musiclover291 08-16-2004 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by farmgirl
I believe he has/had Tinnitus. That could possible cause some problems down the road but without doing some research...I'm not all that familiar with the long term treatment of it or lasting effects.

I totally forgot about that. Very true

Bridge of Clay 08-16-2004 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by farmgirl
I believe he has/had Tinnitus. That could possible cause some problems down the road but without doing some research...I'm not all that familiar with the long term treatment of it or lasting effects.

Tinnitus doesn't involve his voice, it's just his hearing. Now Myles is good, he has a custom made ear plug that aids it.

aussiecreeder 08-16-2004 10:47 AM
yep that condition doesn't affect his voice at all but it did affect his hearing. that condition is now taken of (as opposed to cured) but using these special ear plugs he uses. i simply hope that scott's health problems are behind him and that this project will be a massive success.

farmgirl 08-16-2004 10:51 AM
Thanks for the info. I do know that it affects the hearing, not the voice but I didn't know he had the ear plugs. I read that in some bad cases, people around you can hear the ringing also...that would be kind of freaky, lol. I think it would drive me nuts...glad he got it taken care of. :)


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