I wouldn't say he is nothing, he is definately talented. But i think the AB guys are more talented. IMO

its tough for scott to succeed without a guitarist who can write the music that allows him to have chart success. mark could have gone the instrumental route i guess but he needed a great singer to reclaim any ground creed had and he and flip and brian have done that. scott will do moderately well and i wish him all the best in the world. however its hard to respect the man after reading something like this, which is part of an interview mark did recently with the "red eye".

THE LAST TIME CREED PLAYED IN CHICAGO, IT WAS A DISASTROUS SHOW AT HE ALLSTATE THAT WOUND UP WITH A CIVIL SUIT FILED BY ANNOYED TICKET HOLDERS. CARE TO TELL US WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT?
Scott (Stapp) and I had different dressing rooms, and before the show we met in the hall. You could see it in his eyes that he wasn't himself. I got on him about it and said, "How could you be like this before a show, expecially here in Chicago?" He acted like it was nothing and he swore he could do the show. I was pissed, but we went out on stage, and after 6 songs he walked off stage. I got on the mic and told the crowd that I'd be right back after I found out what Scott was up to. So I had to go chase him off stage into the dressing room and ask him what he was doing. He thought the show was over. So I said, "The show's not over. We gotta finish it." He said, "Oh Sorry." He follows me back on the stage and lied down for a few songs... We had lost contact so much before that. I had no idea wha he was doing before the show or three shows before that. All I know is we never got any closure out of that.

First of all...AB is NOT superior to Creed. It's a matter of opinion and to me, AB has nothing on Creed. They were not held back while in Creed and if they felt they were, they could have got out alot sooner. Stapp runs circles around Myles and if you say he has no talent, then what does that say about Myles? Myles voice could peel paint off the walls...it grates on my nerves.

Second of all...Relearn Love was on several charts and on one particular, it was listed at #6 and OYE was #7. Relearn Love wasn't officially released for radio airplay and won't be until mid October...hence, the reason it isn't everywhere right now. Get your facts straight before you condemn something. As far as Scott needing the guys more than they needed him...quite the opposite.

And for those of you having no respect for Stapp...that's up to you but I have none for the other guys since they can't keep their comments about him to themselves during interviews. If they don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. Again, it's not just one persons fault...period.

whats up with that whole chart thing in this discussion!!!! it's about if you like something or not. not about how high a song ends in the charts. So please don't talk about that.
farmgirl, maybe you gotta turn this thing around. What if Scott was acting like an asshole? i mean mark and flip are not the only ones that say things about scott stapp. I remember that singer of alice in chains saying Stapp was acting like an asshole.
But it just doesn't matter. When a band brakes up, it's ussually not because they are still big friends ya know. So agian. Does it matter that they had a fight? NO.
and yes, there a always two side of a story, but it looks to me that they broke up because of scott stapp and not because something else.


Still love his voice, i really do. But his new song just sucks BIG TIME.

i'm not going to bother going over most of this apart from being perplexed at how anyone could see paint being peeled off the walls due to his voice. read ab's reviews and you will find a few creed fans seem to be the only people in the world sorry that tremonti is working with kennedy. anyhow that is all of a matter of opinion but your sig is highly ironic IMO. 3 quarters of the former band give their honest views and they should keep quiet for fear of pointing of the finger even if they see it as the truth? good point about relearn love's chart position but what chart was it ahead of open your eyes?

I never said Scott was perfect...noone is...all I'm saying is that it takes more than one person to argue and yes, there are 2 sides to everything. Fans who prefer AB will most likely believe their comments in interviews and fans of Scott will most likely believe his. Noone knows for sure unless they were there.

handmedown...this is the site for that chart I mentioned:

http://www.wkcb.com/musicnews.html

I haven't checked it lately...in fact, last time I did, OYE was 6 I think and RL was 9. Not that it matters...I'm just mentioning it because some said it wasn't on any charts. It's what people like that matters. :)

I don't see RL on there.......number nine is nickelback.........

Oh ok. I haven't checked the site in about a week so it must have dropped some then. Thanks.

What's the big deal? Flip was very good to Stapp in this interview. He coulda came out and said he was a (*%^@*# #&%*@##)(&*%%$^#@er if he wanted to. I see were people say that AB is placing all the blame on Stapp, but he is sittin there saying that nobody cared about me and blah blah blah, but then he says, oh well I didn't tell anyone about anything. Stapp is just a regular old John "Flip-Flop" Kerry. GET OVER IT NOW. CREED IS DEAD. ROCK ON AB!

who does the web king charts? i haven't seen scott mentioned on the billboard charts apart from the christian charts and AB are doing very well in the mainstream rock chart (no.3 for OYE).

That right there just shows what they all think of Stapp these days. Glad to hear it. Stapp is a fucking bum.

Alter Bridge rules!! :jam:

I have to disagree when it comes to lyrics. :D I mean Tremonti's lyrics :D