BW on VH1

[R U Ready?]

So, who's seen the video on VH1, I know I haven't.

[titan9]

I haven't seen it yet, either. It's disappointing, because VH1 played OYE a whole lot and before that, they played Creed a bunch as well. I don't think BW has received that much promotion from Wind Up, and I've only heard it on the radio a couple of times.

[The Lithium]

Broken Wings has come to be a real huge hit on the rock radiostations here in Sweden!

[titan9]

If only the same could happen in the USA......

[uncertaindrumer]

To all those who said BW would be huge...

I told you so.:D

[titan9]

I blame the lack of promotion. WU didn't promote it nearly enough for it to be a hit.

[uncertaindrumer]

Blame whatever you want, that song was doomed from the start. It doesn't get rock fans, it doesn't get pop fans, and it doesn't get most people who jsut want good musicianship. The song has two things going for it; the intro/outro, and Myles voice. Put it on the radio and all you have left is Myles voice. And it is not even his most incredible song.

Just a crappy choice. ODR would have at least let people know that AB is a ROCK group.

[The Lithium]

To all those who said BW would be huge...

I told you so.:D
Huge in Europe. But then again, we didn't get Find The Real over here.

[uncertaindrumer]

Lol, well I was always talking with a bunch of U.S. people who thought BW was going to be like the second comingof the Beatles or something...

[Dogstar]

Blame whatever you want, that song was doomed from the start. It doesn't get rock fans, it doesn't get pop fans, and it doesn't get most people who jsut want good musicianship. The song has two things going for it; the intro/outro, and Myles voice. Put it on the radio and all you have left is Myles voice. And it is not even his most incredible song.

Just a crappy choice. ODR would have at least let people know that AB is a ROCK group.
I agree. BW was/is one of my least favorite songs on the CD. It grew on me somewhat after hearing it live, but yeah, ODR would have been a much better choice.

[Ana4Stapp]

Just a crappy choice. ODR would have at least let people know that AB is a ROCK group.

Well...

They promoted:

1º song :Open your eyes

2ºsong: Broken Wings


People possibly will ask: is AB really a ROCK group???? :confused:

[Tremontixriffs]

I agree. BW was/is one of my least favorite songs on the CD. It grew on me somewhat after hearing it live, but yeah, ODR would have been a much better choice.

Please god ....Please bring back creed, I can't take any more mediocre rock songs from this album on tv...The one really good song they didn't even put on the radio or tv, metalingus is their best song from ODR, windup must be on crack. Everytime I hear Broken Wings I feel like its kip winger meets creed..ughhh, the only thing worse could be monster ballads..lol. I just can't get over this neo seventies/eighties sound, One of their best damn songs they don't even promote, it makes no sense whatsoever. I really hope the next album from these guys goes back to their creed routes and mark starts swinging his axe to take away from myles kennedy's annoying nasally Chris Cornell type sound...I try to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but with his singing on songs like broken wings and open your eyes I just think they need to find another singer....sorry.

Also I am not ripping Myles, I think at this point he's done better than any other short term replacement, but lets be seriouse he is not the best rock singer around, neither is cornell...He definitely doesn't have Stapp's stage presence or energy and lacks the abilty to keep his voice from breaking when hitting high notes..Actually he makes Stapp on predisgnone sound like celine dione. I actually believe alot of people who hear alter bridge for the first time are turned off by Kennedy's sound, but mainly listen because they appreciate marks musical ability.

[titan9]

Oh, I agree, I would have rather seen WU release ODR, but I'm realistic. I know WU likes to release ballads by their artists, because ballads typically fair well(see WAWO) on the radio. ODR could have been a big hit on Rock radio, but WU probably wanted something that could also be played on *gag* Pop radio *gag*. It's the same thing with Metalingus. I love that song, but I know it won't be a single. If we get another single off ODR(I haven't heard if they're releasing another single from that CD or not), it's probably going to be "Down to My Last".

[The Lithium]

Please god ....Please bring back creed
Neeeeever gonna happen. If you don't believe me, pick up the latest GuitarOne Magazine!

[Dogstar]

Please god ....Please bring back creed, I can't take any more mediocre rock songs from this album on tv...The one really good song they didn't even put on the radio or tv, metalingus is their best song from ODR, windup must be on crack. Everytime I hear Broken Wings I feel like its kip winger meets creed..ughhh, the only thing worse could be monster ballads..lol. I just can't get over this neo seventies/eighties sound, One of their best damn songs they don't even promote, it makes no sense whatsoever. I really hope the next album from these guys goes back to their creed routes and mark starts swinging his axe to take away from myles kennedy's annoying nasally Chris Cornell type sound...I try to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but with his singing on songs like broken wings and open your eyes I just think they need to find another singer....sorry.

Also I am not ripping Myles, I think at this point he's done better than any other short term replacement, but lets be seriouse he is not the best rock singer around, neither is cornell...He definitely doesn't have Stapp's stage presence or energy and lacks the abilty to keep his voice from breaking when hitting high notes..Actually he makes Stapp on predisgnone sound like celine dione. I actually believe alot of people who hear alter bridge for the first time are turned off by Kennedy's sound, but mainly listen because they appreciate marks musical ability.
I have to disagree about Myles' voice being worse than Stapp's. By the time the Weathered tour was in full swing, Stapp's voice was pretty shot. I don't know which AB shows you've been to, but I've seen them five times and Myles, even when sick with a cold, sounded a whole lot better and stronger than Stapp did toward the end of the Weathered tour. If you listen to boots from early Creed to the later shows, you can hear the detereoration in his voice. Not to say that Stapp wasn't awesome in the beginning, he was.

[Ana4Stapp]

Please god ....Please bring back creed, I can't take any more mediocre rock songs from this album on tv...The one really good song they didn't even put on the radio or tv, metalingus is their best song from ODR, windup must be on crack. Everytime I hear Broken Wings I feel like its kip winger meets creed..ughhh, the only thing worse could be monster ballads..lol. I just can't get over this neo seventies/eighties sound, One of their best damn songs they don't even promote, it makes no sense whatsoever. I really hope the next album from these guys goes back to their creed routes and mark starts swinging his axe to take away from myles kennedy's annoying nasally Chris Cornell type sound...I try to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but with his singing on songs like broken wings and open your eyes I just think they need to find another singer....sorry.

Also I am not ripping Myles, I think at this point he's done better than any other short term replacement, but lets be seriouse he is not the best rock singer around, neither is cornell...He definitely doesn't have Stapp's stage presence or energy and lacks the abilty to keep his voice from breaking when hitting high notes..Actually he makes Stapp on predisgnone sound like celine dione. I actually believe alot of people who hear alter bridge for the first time are turned off by Kennedy's sound, but mainly listen because they appreciate marks musical ability.


I dont agree to that, I mean, about Myles not being the best rock singer.
I really love Cornell' s voice but Myles has a better one. His voice is very good. Also, if he's not the best rock singer we have- I ask: who is?
Cause i cant see anyone... :rolleyes:



About the Bringing back Creed thing --Stop dreaming! Theres no chance! ;)

[uncertaindrumer]

Please god ....Please bring back creed, I can't take any more mediocre rock songs from this album on tv...The one really good song they didn't even put on the radio or tv, metalingus is their best song from ODR, windup must be on crack. Everytime I hear Broken Wings I feel like its kip winger meets creed..ughhh, the only thing worse could be monster ballads..lol. I just can't get over this neo seventies/eighties sound, One of their best damn songs they don't even promote, it makes no sense whatsoever. I really hope the next album from these guys goes back to their creed routes and mark starts swinging his axe to take away from myles kennedy's annoying nasally Chris Cornell type sound...I try to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but with his singing on songs like broken wings and open your eyes I just think they need to find another singer....sorry.

Also I am not ripping Myles, I think at this point he's done better than any other short term replacement, but lets be seriouse he is not the best rock singer around, neither is cornell...He definitely doesn't have Stapp's stage presence or energy and lacks the abilty to keep his voice from breaking when hitting high notes..Actually he makes Stapp on predisgnone sound like celine dione. I actually believe alot of people who hear alter bridge for the first time are turned off by Kennedy's sound, but mainly listen because they appreciate marks musical ability.

*twitches incessantly*

*itches incessantly*

*sneezes incessantly*

*has convulsions*

*recovers*

Sorry guys. I'm allergic to complete and total music stupidity.

[Ana4Stapp]

*twitches incessantly*

*itches incessantly*

*sneezes incessantly*

*has convulsions*

*recovers*

Sorry guys. I'm allergic to complete and total music stupidity.

LOLLLLLLLLL!!!! :lolsign: No Comment! :poke:

[ctfan]

...He definitely doesn't have Stapp's stage presence or energy and lacks the abilty to keep his voice from breaking when hitting high notes..Actually he makes Stapp on predisgnone sound like celine dione. I actually believe alot of people who hear alter bridge for the first time are turned off by Kennedy's sound, but mainly listen because they appreciate marks musical ability.

I agree. :). Mark is very talented, altho I don't much care for the long solos.

[R U Ready?]

So, no one has seen BW on VH1 much, have they?lol :lolsign:

[TeriB19]

Sorry guys. I'm allergic to complete and total music stupidity.
:roll: That's some funny shit right there.

[titan9]

So, no one has seen BW on VH1 much, have they?lol :lolsign:

Lol, I haven't seen it at ALL on VH1 or any other music channel. I highly doubt that ANY music channel in the US(perhaps maybe Fuse has, though) has ever played the BW video. Sad but true.:laugh:

[uncertaindrumer]

:roll: That's some funny shit right there.

Thanks. By the way, I love that sig. That interview=awesome.

[titan9]

I was just about to say that(about the sig). Anytime I see that quote, it cracks me up.:laugh:

[Tremontixriffs]

I was just about to say that(about the sig). Anytime I see that quote, it cracks me up.:laugh:


Sorry guys, its just my opinion...Stapp kicks ass Myles gives you a nudge, when it comes to the whole package I'll take stapp 9 times out of 10. I love uncertains passion when it comes to annointing Kennedy the next king of rock but lets be serious the guys just not that good. You can knock stapp all you want for this and that, fact is he almost ruined he career drugging himself up to perform, fact is he has a better voice hands down and if it wasn't for the rift between creed, Kennedy wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Stapp. Kennedy was so good with mayfield that they went from young pioneers of rock to nobodys in a matter of four years, yeah I like some of Mayfield's music but the potential just wasn't there...

[ctfan]

Sorry guys, its just my opinion...Stapp kicks ass Myles gives you a nudge, when it comes to the whole package I'll take stapp 9 times out of 10. I love uncertains passion when it comes to annointing Kennedy the next king of rock but lets be serious the guys just not that good. You can knock stapp all you want for this and that, fact is he almost ruined he career drugging himself up to perform, fact is he has a better voice hands down and if it wasn't for the rift between creed, Kennedy wouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Stapp. Kennedy was so good with mayfield that they went from young pioneers of rock to nobodys in a matter of four years, yeah I like some of Mayfield's music but the potential just wasn't there...

Agreed, Stapp has the better voice, and not only was the potential not there in Mayfield 4, I don't think it's there in Alter Bridge either.

[Tremontixriffs]

Agreed, Stapp has the better voice, and not only was the potential not there in Mayfield 4, I don't think it's there in Alter Bridge either.

Good call CTfan....I'd say if one day remains were sung by stapp it would have been a huge hit. I absolutely hate ragging on alter bridge, I love the instrumentals, but if its 80-90's monster ballads your looking for kennedy is your man..lol

I also think that Uncertain has got some balls insinuating that anyone with a opinion different than his shows ignorance of rock knowlege.I am a huge fan of rock, I love all rock music and in reading a lot of uncertains former posts I laugh, especially one about the Doors not being one of the alltime best Bands. The doors were awesome in their day, I guess he forgot about robby kreger Or morrison. I have followed rock from the time i was six until now, Yeah there are a lot of bands that come and go but Creed set the bar for other artists with their fan drawing concerts, great songs and huge allegance of fans worldwide. For him to say that some fly by night replacement , kennedy is better, buddy you obviously are ignorant when it comes to rock...achoo, I think I must be damn allergic to something...Total ignorance..lol :eek:

[uncertaindrumer]

Good call CTfan....I'd say if one day remains were sung by stapp it would have been a huge hit.

:eek: Are you really that dumb?

fact is he has a better voice hands down

:eek: Apparently so. Funny thing is, the FACT is on my side that Myles is a better singer with a better voice than Stapp. THAT IS NOT AN OPINION. It is simply true. Now you can LIKE one voice mroe than the other but the FACT is that Myles has more range, hits notes Stapp could never have even dreampt of, and is far more consistent.

Are you in love with Stapp or something? Do you not realize that the MAJORITY of people can't stand him? Why on Earth do you think he is good?

[titan9]

Myles has more range than Stapp, and is technically the better of the two. But, not everyone will like Myles at first and I think Stapp is the more easy to like singer of the two. His voice is smoother than Myles' at times.

[uncertaindrumer]

Myles has more range than Stapp, and is technically the better of the two. But, not everyone will like Myles at first and I think Stapp is the more easy to like singer of the two. His voice is smoother than Myles' at times.

Which is what I said. You can like one more than the other, but you can't say Stapp is a beter singer than Myles. He isn't.

As for the "smoother" thing... What happened to rock n' roll? When did it die? Where are the days of Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, and offensively loud instruments playing great original riffs? Why do things now have to be "smooth", and "easy"? When did the Musical I.Q. of the people lower to retardedness? (by the way Titan, I am not accusing YOU of this, I am jsut saying, in general).

[Dogstar]

Good call CTfan....I'd say if one day remains were sung by stapp it would have been a huge hit.

:laugh: That's some funny shit. I'm sorry, but there is no way on earth that Stapp could hit the notes in AB's songs, especially in a song like Find the Real. He also doesn't have the power Myles has, either. As someone else said, you can prefer one over the other (frankly, I enjoy both), but technically speaking, Myles is head and shoulders above Stapp.


I also think that Uncertain has got some balls insinuating that anyone with a opinion different than his shows ignorance of rock knowlege.I am a huge fan of rock, I love all rock music and in reading a lot of uncertains former posts I laugh, especially one about the Doors not being one of the alltime best Bands. The doors were awesome in their day, I guess he forgot about robby kreger Or morrison. I have followed rock from the time i was six until now, Yeah there are a lot of bands that come and go but Creed set the bar for other artists with their fan drawing concerts, great songs and huge allegance of fans worldwide. For him to say that some fly by night replacement , kennedy is better, buddy you obviously are ignorant when it comes to rock...achoo, I think I must be damn allergic to something...Total ignorance..lol :eek:
There were plenty of bands that set the bar for drawing fans way before Creed, the Grateful Dead for one, Pearl Jam for another, Metallica, the list goes on. Metallica is still selling out stadiums. Creed's shows, by the end of the Weathered tour, were drawing half to three-quarter full arenas.

[Tremontixriffs]

:eek: Are you really that dumb?



:eek: Apparently so. Funny thing is, the FACT is on my side that Myles is a better singer with a better voice than Stapp. THAT IS NOT AN OPINION. It is simply true. Now you can LIKE one voice mroe than the other but the FACT is that Myles has more range, hits notes Stapp could never have even dreampt of, and is far more consistent.

Are you in love with Stapp or something? Do you not realize that the MAJORITY of people can't stand him? Why on Earth do you think he is good?

I like to know what"fact"your basing that on when there is none, you say kennedy, some say stapp. The guy is awesome , no I dont "love" the guy but I realize his accomplishments, and what shall I say kennedy has accomplished?The Mayfield Four were a joke and never became more than a bar band with a big record deal...Yeah I know not enought publicity right? no its called not enough talent. Kennedy is nothing more than a wannabe rock star , while Stapp was the real deal...period..Hey Jim Morrison wasn't able to shriek like kennedy or hit every high note, but people recognized him as a great frontman, with one of the best bands ever the doors were awesome. Your opinion is what is is just as mine is, you say noone can really stand stapp, funny, everyone I talk to seemed to like stapp but the media made him out to be a hated ego maniac, we can also mention some jealous bands as well that would have love to have reeped creed's success . i'm sorry Kennedy does not do it for most people, I like listening to a alterbridge song every once in a while, but creed rocks and there are alot of people who perfer that type of music to a guy trying to imitate robert plante or those type of long and gone 80's singers....Actually his voice isn't bad , but it can be darn near annoying some times. If I wanted to hear 80's music I'd throw on some POISON, MOTLEY CRUE , WARRANT or Winger. Fact is creed dominated the charts with rock music when rock had taken a back seat to boy bands and pop music. I don't remember Metallica doing much of anything through the ninties other that Their enter sandman album which was like 1990 or something. yeah their s&m album kicked ass but that was like 2000-2001. Actually rock music in general owes a lot to creed for bringing it back from the dead after hair bands like some of the above almost ruined it with the monster ballads generation...

[Ana4Stapp]

I like listening to a alterbridge song every once in a while, but creed rocks and there are alot of people who perfer that type of music to a guy trying to imitate robert plante or those type of long and gone 80's singers....Actually his voice isn't bad , but it can be darn near annoying some times.

Oh ..."his voice isnt bad"???!!! I think you are listening to the wrong guy. :rolleyes:

Well, I know this is a reply to uncertain's post, but like a Stapp's fan i think i can give you my answer too -and maybe -- make you understand one point:

Myles is the best rock singer we have.This is a fact.

And before you stop to read that-- :rolleyes: look:

I really like Stapp's voice but I have to admmit that Myles has an absolute technic to range high notes,what Stapp hasnt. Since the weathered's tour. Everyone knows that. Even Stapp admitted it.Everyone knows his voice was so deteriorated, that its easy to understand that it is not the same at the begginig like in the MOP days.

But of course, concerning to the passion--you can PREFER Stapp's voice, but try to get it considering to the technic-- you 'll see clearly that Myles is superior to Stapp.

Also, just to clarify--I love Stapp, but I dont think media is the one to blame in this case-- unhappily-he gave us tons of reasons to became an "egoistic-rock-star poser" like some people say...

[uncertaindrumer]

Actually rock music in general owes a lot to creed for bringing it back from the dead after hair bands like some of the above almost ruined it with the monster ballads generation...

Creed is not even real Rock n' Roll. It's alternative, and many would say it is very poppy. It did not bring back rock from the dead, you are clearly nuts. If anything, it killed it. Now we have nothing but a bunch of bands tryign to capitalize on $$$ by doing exactly what Creed did. Funny thing is, Creed was not even the FIRST of their kind. They did nothing original, nothing new, nothing unique, and nothing worthy of rememberance, except maybe the few concerts where Stapp was ROLLING ON THE FLOOR WASTED.

Liking Creed is not a problem, but you have them on a pedastal they don't deserve to be on. They are nothing special. Next I suppose you are going to tell me eminem is great and amazing, right? Because guess what, he sold 15 million albums on one record. Creed never did that.

[Tremontixriffs]

Creed is not even real Rock n' Roll. It's alternative, and many would say it is very poppy. It did not bring back rock from the dead, you are clearly nuts. If anything, it killed it. Now we have nothing but a bunch of bands tryign to capitalize on $$$ by doing exactly what Creed did. Funny thing is, Creed was not even the FIRST of their kind. They did nothing original, nothing new, nothing unique, and nothing worthy of rememberance, except maybe the few concerts where Stapp was ROLLING ON THE FLOOR WASTED.

Liking Creed is not a problem, but you have them on a pedastal they don't deserve to be on. They are nothing special. Next I suppose you are going to tell me eminem is great and amazing, right? Because guess what, he sold 15 million albums on one record. Creed never did that.


Look were not going to go anywhere with this, you have your opinons I am entitled to mine, other than some of the pro Bridge fans in this Site their are a lot of people who may feel the opposite of you. What is real rock and roll,? some moron screaming at the top of his lungs? Or music that everyone appreciates from the headbanger to your more laid back person. Creed did do a lot more than you give them credit for when it comes to rock and roll. There have been so many good rock bands throughout the years who aren't all about being a Led Zeplin carbon copy, but about making really good music. Aerosmith has been around four forty years, and their still at the top. I hardly feel creed was a pop band, gimme a break.

In closing I like alter bridge, their not too bad...But I prefer creed and I just enjoy listening to their music more, they were entertaining as where bridge is all about mark and his guitar playing. They never will enjoy the success that creed had. Years from now regardless of what you think their music will still be played while alter bridge will remain a mediocre rock band with a second rate singer.. I actually think I might go turn on that movie rock star really quick, bcause it sure reminds me oof whats happened to creed..ughhh

[uncertaindrumer]

Why do you keep bringing up Alter Bridge? I am not even THAT Huge a fan of AB (although they do blow Creed out of the water), but I am not defending them. Myles has a great voice and is extremely talented, Tremonti can shred your ears off, but Tremonti is not a very good songwriter. Because of that, the whole band suffers from a generic sound only set apart from the rest by his above average guitar skills.

You say AB is all about Mark and his guitar playing... well, uh ,what's Creed about? Getting money? Because that is all their songs do. I guaruntee you they won't stand the test of time.

[RoffeDH]

Please god ....Please bring back creed, I can't take any more mediocre rock songs from this album on tv...The one really good song they didn't even put on the radio or tv, metalingus is their best song from ODR, windup must be on crack. Everytime I hear Broken Wings I feel like its kip winger meets creed..ughhh, the only thing worse could be monster ballads..lol. I just can't get over this neo seventies/eighties sound, One of their best damn songs they don't even promote, it makes no sense whatsoever. I really hope the next album from these guys goes back to their creed routes and mark starts swinging his axe to take away from myles kennedy's annoying nasally Chris Cornell type sound...I try to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, but with his singing on songs like broken wings and open your eyes I just think they need to find another singer....sorry.

Also I am not ripping Myles, I think at this point he's done better than any other short term replacement, but lets be seriouse he is not the best rock singer around, neither is cornell...He definitely doesn't have Stapp's stage presence or energy and lacks the abilty to keep his voice from breaking when hitting high notes..Actually he makes Stapp on predisgnone sound like celine dione. I actually believe alot of people who hear alter bridge for the first time are turned off by Kennedy's sound, but mainly listen because they appreciate marks musical ability.

This must be the most idiotic thing to say... First of: YOU ARE POSTING THINGS ON A ALTER BRIDGE THREAD! If you don't like the music at all... DON'T COME HERE! Go to the Stapp thread or Creed thread. And please face it! Creed is dead and will NEVER be back, witch I'm kind of happy about couse that would mean the end for Myles in AB and Brian... And I wouldn't want that to happen... Myles have the better voice, as many have said before, you might think that Stapp have a better voice, but if you just look at the facts Myles have the better one.
To claim that ODR would have been a bigger hit if Creed would have given it out is just ignorence, Stapp would have taken the lyrics and twisted them, couse thats what happend to all of the lyrics. Then he would have teased Mark when he did wanted a solo and say "Nirvana killed the solo", well fuck that. Then to topp it all, Mark would have to rewrite the tunes so that Stapp could hit the notes!... SO no I highly doubt that Stapp would have been a better choise...
Peace out and stopp complainging at the wrong place!

[Tremontixriffs]

This must be the most idiotic thing to say... First of: YOU ARE POSTING THINGS ON A ALTER BRIDGE THREAD! If you don't like the music at all... DON'T COME HERE! Go to the Stapp thread or Creed thread. And please face it! Creed is dead and will NEVER be back, witch I'm kind of happy about couse that would mean the end for Myles in AB and Brian... And I wouldn't want that to happen... Myles have the better voice, as many have said before, you might think that Stapp have a better voice, but if you just look at the facts Myles have the better one.
To claim that ODR would have been a bigger hit if Creed would have given it out is just ignorence, Stapp would have taken the lyrics and twisted them, couse thats what happend to all of the lyrics. Then he would have teased Mark when he did wanted a solo and say "Nirvana killed the solo", well fuck that. Then to topp it all, Mark would have to rewrite the tunes so that Stapp could hit the notes!... SO no I highly doubt that Stapp would have been a better choise...
Peace out and stopp complainging at the wrong place!
Hey I am not saying that Myles Kennedy is not talented, he is but I just think that Stapp is a better fit with that band...I respect your opinon, there are alot of songs on AB'S cd that I think show potential, my favorite is metalingus. There is just something about kennedy's voice that gets under my skin, I dont know what it is. I love and have been a hug admirer of Marks work , he's probably one of the best guitarist I have seen growing up and ranks up there with Eddie van Halen, he may even be better by the time he is older, who knows...I am not going topost anymore anti- alter bridge posts...sorry guys, I just feel the way I do, but I love the awesome shredding on this past album, I just wish they will improve with the next cd, hopefully they will put out another kick ass cd.

[uncertaindrumer]

Hey I am not saying that Myles Kennedy is not talented, he is but I just think that Stapp is a better fit with that band...I respect your opinon, there are alot of songs on AB'S cd that I think show potential, my favorite is metalingus. There is just something about kennedy's voice that gets under my skin, I dont know what it is. I love and have been a hug admirer of Marks work , he's probably one of the best guitarist I have seen growing up and ranks up there with Eddie van Halen, he may even be better by the time he is older, who knows...I am not going topost anymore anti- alter bridge posts...sorry guys, I just feel the way I do, but I love the awesome shredding on this past album, I just wish they will improve with the next cd, hopefully they will put out another kick ass cd.


You sound an amazing amount like Johhnynips... its almost freaky.

Myles probably gets under your skin because you're not a big Rock n' Roll fan. If you were, you'd be used to tenors. That is what rock n' roll was during its heyday. Too bad it died.

[ctfan]

:eek: Are you really that dumb?



:eek: Apparently so. Funny thing is, the FACT is on my side that Myles is a better singer with a better voice than Stapp. THAT IS NOT AN OPINION. It is simply true. Now you can LIKE one voice mroe than the other but the FACT is that Myles has more range, hits notes Stapp could never have even dreampt of, and is far more consistent.

Are you in love with Stapp or something? Do you not realize that the MAJORITY of people can't stand him? Why on Earth do you think he is good?

Eh, makes no difference to me who has the best range, or can hit the higher notes...it's what's pleasing to the ear that matters to me. Myles voice just isn't pleasing and I don't like the sound of it combined with the heavy music.

I know you didn't ask me why I think Stapp is good, you asked someone else, but I'll give you my opinion. Not only do I think Stapp is a great singer...it's in the way he presents it. His performance of it. He moves, he interacts and he adds feeling to the music.

When I watched Alter Bridge during the Home Run Derby, they acted as if just their presence alone was enough to make people swoon. Like they have this attitude of we are here, enjoy. They are all talented, not saying they aren't, but they have this weird attitude about it all.

[titan9]

Which is what I said. You can like one more than the other, but you can't say Stapp is a beter singer than Myles. He isn't.

As for the "smoother" thing... What happened to rock n' roll? When did it die? Where are the days of Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, and offensively loud instruments playing great original riffs? Why do things now have to be "smooth", and "easy"? When did the Musical I.Q. of the people lower to retardedness? (by the way Titan, I am not accusing YOU of this, I am jsut saying, in general).

This is the third time I've tried to post a reponse to this post, lol. First time, my account logged out before I could post(and I had a nice little response written up) and the second time I got halfway done with my response and had to go. Annoying to say the least.:laugh: Let's try this again.

I personally love offensively loud instruments and great riffs. I'm a huge fan of solos(one of the many reasons why I decided to take up guitar; I wanted to solo like Slash or Tremonti). I also appreciate guys who can hit pretty high notes. But, I'm the kind of guy who would get bored if all the vocalists I listened to sounded like Myles. Hence why I also enjoy listening to Stapp, Paul McCoy(12 Stones), Jon Micah Sumrall(Kutless), Donald Carpenter(Submersed) and a slew of others. I'm glad that not every Rock singer is like Myles because if they were, Myles wouldn't be as unique as he is. Just because those other guys I mentioned don't have Myles range, it doesn't make them any less of a Rock singer. Just because they all have pretty smooth vocals(smoother than Myles because Myles has a different style of singing), that doesn't make them any less of a Rock singer and that doesn't mean that those who enjoy those types of singers(lower pitched, smoother vocals) have a retarded musical IQ. It just means that they like a different type of Rock than some do.

[Dogstar]

I know you didn't ask me why I think Stapp is good, you asked someone else, but I'll give you my opinion. Not only do I think Stapp is a great singer...it's in the way he presents it. His performance of it. He moves, he interacts and he adds feeling to the music.

When I watched Alter Bridge during the Home Run Derby, they acted as if just their presence alone was enough to make people swoon. Like they have this attitude of we are here, enjoy. They are all talented, not saying they aren't, but they have this weird attitude about it all.
LOL, that's funny, really. In Creed, Scott was the only one who interacted with the crowd, most likely because he wanted it that way. And yes, he is an awesome frontman, no doubt about it.

I've seen Creed four times and AB five times, and AB is way better with the crowd because they ALL get a chance to do their thing with the crowd. I've been up front for of those shows, too, and there is a marked difference in the way Mark is with AB than he was with Creed. Myles is great with the crowd as well. Lots of high-fiving, smiles, eye contact, same with Mark, a ton more eye contact. Even Brian smiles a lot at the crowd.

[uncertaindrumer]

This is the third time I've tried to post a reponse to this post, lol. First time, my account logged out before I could post(and I had a nice little response written up) and the second time I got halfway done with my response and had to go. Annoying to say the least.:laugh: Let's try this again.

I personally love offensively loud instruments and great riffs. I'm a huge fan of solos(one of the many reasons why I decided to take up guitar; I wanted to solo like Slash or Tremonti). I also appreciate guys who can hit pretty high notes. But, I'm the kind of guy who would get bored if all the vocalists I listened to sounded like Myles. Hence why I also enjoy listening to Stapp, Paul McCoy(12 Stones), Jon Micah Sumrall(Kutless), Donald Carpenter(Submersed) and a slew of others. I'm glad that not every Rock singer is like Myles because if they were, Myles wouldn't be as unique as he is. Just because those other guys I mentioned don't have Myles range, it doesn't make them any less of a Rock singer. Just because they all have pretty smooth vocals(smoother than Myles because Myles has a different style of singing), that doesn't make them any less of a Rock singer and that doesn't mean that those who enjoy those types of singers(lower pitched, smoother vocals) have a retarded musical IQ. It just means that they like a different type of Rock than some do.

Myles stands out because all of the other guys you just mentioned sound a LOT alike (besides the guy from kutless who I wouldn't know about because I have never heard them).

I am not saying other singers are bad. They just aren't Rock n' Roll singers. Alternative, maybe. Post grunge, whatever. But they are not Rock n' Roll singers.

[Chase]

I will bet anyone that Stapp's solo effort will be more popular than Alter Bridge's "One Day Remains." Stapp will probably be ripped by the critics, but embraced by more people... much like Creed was. Most people were first drawn to Creed by Stapp's voice and lyrics... later realizing how great of a guitarist Tremonti was. That was Creed's appeal. I'm not saying that Alter Bridge isn't good... but they haven't had the powerful effect on people like has Creed had.

One more thing, if Stapp does decide to play a Creed song or two on his solo tour... just remember that Audioslave plays Rage Against the Machine songs and has Cornell singing Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun."

[titan9]

I think the issue most people have with the whole Creed songs on Stapp's tour thing is that Stapp is breaking a verbal agreement between Tremonti and him. Before Tremonti mentioned the agreement, I was one of those people who did not care either way. But now I am against the idea of Stapp performing Creed songs on his solo tour because it is breaking an agreement that he made with Mark. As a Creed fan, that hurts me. I don't care if Stapp is doing it just to be a jerk or a smart alec. The bottom line is that if there was an agreement, what Stapp is about to do is just plain wrong. I do agree, however, that Stapp's solo CD will probably sell more copies than ODR did. I think that simply because Stapp will probably do a more radio friendly sound, whereas AB can really only be played on Rock radio. Stapp's music will probably be suitable for Rock and Pop radio alike, perhaps even Alternative as well. Because it is friendly, he'll probably have a great deal of success on radio and that'll add up to very good record sales. I honestly expect the solo CD to sell over 150,000 copies in the first week and I think it'll eventually move 800,000-1,000,000. I think enough people still remember Stapp and still remember Creed and those that were a fan of either(or both) will want this album.

[Ana4Stapp]

I agreed with you titan, I think Stapp doesnt have to sing Creed songs on tour, except maybe - WAWO-since it was made for his kid.

;)

[Ana4Stapp]

I will bet anyone that Stapp's solo effort will be more popular than Alter Bridge's "One Day Remains." Stapp will probably be ripped by the critics, but embraced by more people... much like Creed was. .


I think Stapp cant get away of being the "voice of Creed", I mean, WU will promote him like this (do you remember his signature"SS-Cred solso 05"?)
Of course, assuming the "pop" portion of Creed, he will get more people than AB ;)

[uncertaindrumer]

I will bet anyone that Stapp's solo effort will be more popular than Alter Bridge's "One Day Remains." Stapp will probably be ripped by the critics, but embraced by more people... much like Creed was. Most people were first drawn to Creed by Stapp's voice and lyrics... later realizing how great of a guitarist Tremonti was. That was Creed's appeal. I'm not saying that Alter Bridge isn't good... but they haven't had the powerful effect on people like has Creed had.

One more thing, if Stapp does decide to play a Creed song or two on his solo tour... just remember that Audioslave plays Rage Against the Machine songs and has Cornell singing Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun."

Creed's "appeal" seams to be eerily similar to certain other acts out today, not worth mentioning...

Really though, Stapp is not gonna get that popular. He is old news and that never does well. Even if he has the msot radio friendly songs on earth--which he prolly will--he is too old and too hated. Or maybe he will. who knows.

[Ana4Stapp]

Creed's "appeal" seams to be eerily similar to certain other acts out today, not worth mentioning...

Really though, Stapp is not gonna get that popular. He is old news and that never does well. Even if he has the msot radio friendly songs on earth--which he prolly will--he is too old and too hated. Or maybe he will. who knows.

Too old? Too hated? Hun??? :confused: :confused:

[Dogstar]

I don't think he's too old or hated all that much. Somebody bought those bazillions of records :D. Also, if it's poppy, the masses will probably eat it up. I mean, look at the gazillion records sold by the Back Street Boys, N*Sync, Britney. There's no accounting for taste. I hope it's more soulful than poppy, but I'm guessing he'll go poppy. Who knows?

[titan9]

If he goes poppy, chances are it's because Wind-Up wants him to go poppy. I highly doubt that he himself wants to put out something that everyone except teeny boppers will hate. I think it's going to be quite similar to Creed(hopefully not a complete copy-cat, though) and we all know how successful Creed was on pop radio. Heck, I still hear Creed songs on the radio on a real consistent basis nowadays. I think if Stapp continues to use the Creed sound, whether that's the MOP sound or the Weathered sound, he'll be successful and shouldn't be hated too badly by the critics or others. I just hope he doesn't go Rob Thomas, going from a band that wasn't exactly that poppy to being a really poppy solo artist. Although Thomas has still been successful......

Uncertain, trust me, there are more hated artists out there. I'm willing to bet that there are more Justin Timberlake or Fred Durst or Britney Spears haters out there than there are Stapp haters. Besides that, just because an artist is hated by some, that doesn't mean he won't get radio airplay. Happens all the time. And he's definitely not too old. The previously mentioned Thomas is older than Stapp, if memory serves correct. And yet Thomas has had great success on pop radio. Same with Bono and the rest of the U2 guys. It's not all about age; it's about the music.

[Ana4Stapp]

It's not all about age; it's about the music.

Loving your words!!! ;)

[Chase]

Creed's "appeal" seams to be eerily similar to certain other acts out today, not worth mentioning...

Really though, Stapp is not gonna get that popular. He is old news and that never does well. Even if he has the msot radio friendly songs on earth--which he prolly will--he is too old and too hated. Or maybe he will. who knows.


C'mon... let's be realistic here. "One Day Remains" isn't exactly the huge, breakout album that I think some people thought it was going to be. Stapp won't have to reach Creed status to be more successful than Alter Bridge. If Stapp is old news, then what does that make that old axeman of Creed (Tremonti)? The new "it" boy of rock n' roll? Creed became a popular band in 1999 and ended up being one of the biggest rock bands in the world for a couple of years. They aren't some one-hit wonder since been forgotten rock band.

[titan9]

Agreed. Creed definitely has not been forgotten by the masses. I still hear Creed songs practically every day on the radio, whether it is Pop(I only listen to that when I have no control over the radio) or Rock. People still request Creed and still want to hear them. As a matter of fact, I just heard "Torn" on a local Rock radio station an hour ago.....and the other day I heard "My Sacrifice" on a local Pop radio station. I hear Creed on the radio more often then I hear Nickelback, a pretty popular band, on the radio. I've heard Creed on Rock radio in the past year more than I have heard Alter Bridge. People haven't forgotten about Creed or Stapp. I'd venture to say that most don't even know that Creed broke up. Mark has even said that in interviews. There's probably still quite a few fans who are expecting a fourth Creed album. No way is Stapp old news, no way is Creed old news. To say that is ridiculus.

[uncertaindrumer]

C'mon... let's be realistic here. "One Day Remains" isn't exactly the huge, breakout album that I think some people thought it was going to be. Stapp won't have to reach Creed status to be more successful than Alter Bridge. If Stapp is old news, then what does that make that old axeman of Creed (Tremonti)? The new "it" boy of rock n' roll? Creed became a popular band in 1999 and ended up being one of the biggest rock bands in the world for a couple of years. They aren't some one-hit wonder since been forgotten rock band.

You guys jsut don't get how quickly pop music fades. Stapp got his fame through pop radio. He hasn't put anything out for three years. He has lsot a lot of fans.

As for having more success than AB... bah, he might. AB hasn't really caught on, for good reason. They aren't bad enoguh to be pop, and they aren't good enough to be noticed.

[Chase]

You guys jsut don't get how quickly pop music fades. Stapp got his fame through pop radio. He hasn't put anything out for three years. He has lsot a lot of fans.

As for having more success than AB... bah, he might. AB hasn't really caught on, for good reason. They aren't bad enoguh to be pop, and they aren't good enough to be noticed.

Some of the greatest bands and musicians in the history of rock music have been played on pop radio stations. Being played on a pop station does not take away from their musical abilities or credentials. It does expose them to a wider variety on listeners. Creed obviously had a huge impact on rock fans, but they did, however, have nearly an equal impact on the pop rock folks. He's lost fans, sure. Yet, I know people who haven't really supported Alter Bridge because they left Stapp. Like Titan said, Creed has been a consistent force on the radio medium. His voice is still fresh in the ears of millions.

[uncertaindrumer]

Which is what I meant. You see great bands on the radio, and bad bands on the radio. You never see the good ones.

[PJAmerica]

Alter Bridge is an okay band. I can still hear the Creedish sound in the music. The vocalist has his own style as well which is cool but the fact that it wasn't Stapp and was creedish like I think is what hindered AB's chances in the mainstream.

Fact is that most people will still listen to Creed music and Stapp's music because it takes them back to the days of Creed. That is something AB doesn't do for Creed Fans.

Overall, I can see Stapp's Solo Album doing very well and AB holding down the fort but not really breaking the radio walls down like it should. I could be wrong but I predict a year or 2 and Scott, Mark and Crew will probably give it another go. All of them have grown and expanded there interests and still have more to go.

Bad thing about it all is that AB is kind of like the red headed Step-Child of Creed no matter what it does.