Passion breeds followers......

[DekWannaBFlea]

Is it just me or is that message board almost cultish?

I like AB, but i am not going to follow and talk about them if they were some kind of god like that messageboard does.....And did you ever notice their use of smileys were pictures of stapp...weird....Anybody notice the same thing?

(I didn't know where to put this)

[farmgirl]

Just because it's a positive site and is for Stapp fans, doesn't make it cultish. It's refreshing to have a place where bashing and rude comments aren't allowed. There is too much of that everywhere else. Have you seen some of the emoticons at the pit? If you don't like the site, you don't have to go there.

And maybe you don't treat AB like Gods, but some others do. It's all a matter of one's taste and personality. I like the site myself.

[The Lithium]

It's a really good fansite, with lots of downloads, and a clean messboard, but the people who posts on the messboard are a bit too much to handle sometimes. I'm not complaining at all, but for those who post there we all know the story why I left the board!!

[aussiecreeder]

its great for information and getting downloads and articles from. but not allowing negative postings....ummm don't they call that censorship? ;)

[RockGoddess]

For the enitre half hour they allowed me to be a member, I must say what I saw just in terms of layout and design was really impressive. Graphically, it's a beautiful site.

[farmgirl]

its great for information and getting downloads and articles from. but not allowing negative postings....ummm don't they call that censorship? ;)

All private boards are moderated somewhat. Even here, if someone gets out of hand, or blatently attacks someone, they would be warned or banned, or at the very least, their post deleted. It's no different. They just want to keep it a fun, happy place...there is enough negativity at other sites.....

[Steve]

That is the way they run their board. Please don't disrespect fellow fan sites on here though. I may not like BOARD X but because they put forth the effort to make the site and the community, give them respect for that :)

Also everyone runs their forums differently. CreedPit and ABB.net allow huge images in peoples' signatures which I hate. I don't allow that here. We all have differences in what we like or don't like!

[DekWannaBFlea]

Agreed, its a good site.......But still thats not what i am saying........It just seems like if you disagree with them you're going to get flamed hardcore. Atleast on this site in the Scott stapp forum there is some kind of open mindness. See what i am saying? When i say cultish i don't mean an actual cult i just say that to exagerate a point. But to illustrate my point.....http://passionbreedsfollowers.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2460&page=2&pp=10

I have NEVER seen the use of pictures of anybody on a fan site like that.......its like.....we know what scott looks like we don't need to see him hundreds of times.

This is an just an oberservation, I am not trying to say that passionbreeds followers is a bad site, i guess i just don't like the way they run the board.

[DekWannaBFlea]

To get a more balanced opinion i am registering at ABB.net to see what theirs looks like.....

[farmgirl]

[QUOTE=DekWannaBFlea]I have NEVER seen the use of pictures of anybody on a fan site like that.......its like.....we know what scott looks like we don't need to see him hundreds of times.
[QUOTE]

Alot of fan sites allow banners with pics....so does the Pit. I belong to some other bands boards, and some of them do also. I agree with Steve though, I don't like the banners. For people on dial-up, it takes too long to load the thread. Some sites have limits to the size you can use but it still adds to the time to open it. I also agree its a matter of taste...each site is different.

[BobbyMcGee]

Is it just me or is that message board almost cultish?

I like AB, but i am not going to follow and talk about them if they were some kind of god like that messageboard does.....And did you ever notice their use of smileys were pictures of stapp...weird....Anybody notice the same thing?

(I didn't know where to put this)

Okay I'm new (been lurking for a long time) here but I'm somewhat confused. If you don't like what a board has or what the members post, why do you go there?
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[Bridge of Clay]

I must say what I saw just in terms of layout and design was really impressive. Graphically, it's a beautiful site.

yeah, it's pretty awesome!

[Ann Allusion]

But still thats not what i am saying........It just seems like if you disagree with them you're going to get flamed hardcore.

:wtf: ...believe you are a bit off center there...no one flames anyone hardcore..that is something the people that post there DON'T do...people do have differences of opinion but it is kept respectable at all times, and makes the discussions interesting...have you attempted to make a post there with an opinion you'd like to discuss?...or are you just going by what you THINK goes on there?

everyone gravitates to a place where they feel comfortable...to each their own.

[musiclover291]

I love PBF personally. I agree with Ann Allusion the people there are very nice and you are can disagree. I have read many threads that disagree with each other but they respect each other viewpoints without bashing. I have even read threads were they may disagree with Stapp but the difference they don't bash him.

[ctfan]

Agreed, its a good site.......But still thats not what i am saying........It just seems like if you disagree with them you're going to get flamed hardcore. Atleast on this site in the Scott stapp forum there is some kind of open mindness. See what i am saying? When i say cultish i don't mean an actual cult i just say that to exagerate a point. But to illustrate my point.....http://passionbreedsfollowers.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2460&page=2&pp=10

I have NEVER seen the use of pictures of anybody on a fan site like that.......its like.....we know what scott looks like we don't need to see him hundreds of times.

This is an just an oberservation, I am not trying to say that passionbreeds followers is a bad site, i guess i just don't like the way they run the board.


If you don't like the way they run the board, then why would you want to go there, and why in hell, would you bring your complaints about another board...here?? :wtf:

[DekWannaBFlea]

because i checked it out.............and decided i didn't like it.....???

[DekWannaBFlea]

I am still waiting for ABB.net to accept my registration......

[aussiecreeder]

you can register for ezboard boards quickly so it shouldn't take you too long there. about pbf i am not registered at that board so i don't know what its like, but not allowing dissenting opinions sounds a bit over the top to me. its a very cool site for getting news, info and music from however.

[Ann Allusion]

i don't know what its like, but not allowing dissenting opinions sounds a bit over the top to me.

and you are right..because, once again..that is NOT what happens there...RESPECT is shown all the way around, and all opinions are welcome, i believe as long as that RESPECT is maintained...and all that post there do seem to abide by the rule of RESPECT...

DWBF...if you just read the bb and decided you just didn't like it...that is your choice...no problem...but what do you hope to accomplish with the comments you are making about the place?...especially when you have no first hand knowledge of what REALLY does go on there...

for those that do post there...it is someplace that THEY enjoy...away from the usual negativity that is on some of the other bb's...nice people..nice place...maybe someday you will find the same, then you'll understand...i hope so... :)

[DekWannaBFlea]

and you are right..because, once again..that is NOT what happens there...RESPECT is shown all the way around, and all opinions are welcome, i believe as long as that RESPECT is maintained...and all that post there do seem to abide by the rule of RESPECT...

DWBF...if you just read the bb and decided you just didn't like it...that is your choice...no problem...but what do you hope to accomplish with the comments you are making about the place?...especially when you have no first hand knowledge of what REALLY does go on there...

for those that do post there...it is someplace that THEY enjoy...away from the usual negativity that is on some of the other bb's...nice people..nice place...maybe someday you will find the same, then you'll understand...i hope so... :)

.......SO i don't have the right to express my opinion about the board? The site is good, i won't disagree with that, but the BB is what i don't like about it.

The posting of this thread was kind of a way of thanking Steve for not making this board like that board.....but i guess i didn't say it straight up.

Maybe someday i will find a board like that? What about this one? Would i be posting on this board if i didn't like it? Are my 70 posts mocking this board?

I have no first hand knowledge? Huh? If i had no knowledge of the bb why would i be talking about it?

Sorry i am mister negativity......Maybe i should resort to posting mindless positive crap that does do anthing for the discussion........

AB ROCKZORS !!131331 :flip: :bigjump: :tremonti: :smileyban :jam: :jam: :thankyou:

Is that better?

[farmgirl]

.......SO i don't have the right to express my opinion about the board? The site is good, i won't disagree with that, but the BB is what i don't like about it.

If my memory is correct, bringing stuff from other boards is discouraged here. I beleive there was talk about the Pit awhile back and one of the mods here told the poster not to bring things from other sites here if the comments were negative. If comments about a place known for its bashing of Stapp are not allowed, then I would think negative comments about a positive Stapp site should not be allowed also. Fair is fair. If I am wrong, a mod can correct me but I believe that is the case.

I withdrew my membership from the place I didn't like. Not worth my time. Just read the boards you enjoy instead of ones you don't.

[aussiecreeder]

and you are right..because, once again..that is NOT what happens there...RESPECT is shown all the way around, and all opinions are welcome, i believe as long as that RESPECT is maintained...and all that post there do seem to abide by the rule of RESPECT...

DWBF...if you just read the bb and decided you just didn't like it...that is your choice...no problem...but what do you hope to accomplish with the comments you are making about the place?...especially when you have no first hand knowledge of what REALLY does go on there...

for those that do post there...it is someplace that THEY enjoy...away from the usual negativity that is on some of the other bb's...nice people..nice place...maybe someday you will find the same, then you'll understand...i hope so... :)

okay fair enough but educate me a bit further if you would. if i was to be accepted and i posted in an adult fashion how i believe stapp has let his fans down, and he is not held in the esteem i once held him in would i be hassled or banned?

[BobbyMcGee]

So you didn't like it that's all well and good but I see no sense in bringing your gripes over to another board.......<<<<is very confused. I thought this was a b/b to discuss Creed not other bulletin boards **shrugs** And from what I have heard it is a privately owned bulletin board so I'm assuming the owners can do pretty much what they want since the expense of running the site is coming out of their own pockets and no one elses.
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[Dogstar]

Farmgirl, you are correct:

That is the way they run their board. Please don't disrespect fellow fan sites on here though. I may not like BOARD X but because they put forth the effort to make the site and the community, give them respect for that :)

Also everyone runs their forums differently. CreedPit and ABB.net allow huge images in peoples' signatures which I hate. I don't allow that here. We all have differences in what we like or don't like!

Also, bringing battles between members from other boards (the Pit talk to which farmgirl referred) is indeed highly discouraged. Keep it to the board where it belongs.

[Mulletman]

No its not and no he did nothing wrong, he clearly stated his purpose in asking other if they saw that board in the same way he did. He did not deliberatley or subtley attack that board, that site, anyone in specific, nor did he attack Stapp. He asked other of thier opinions of that board. ALL current AB/Stapp/Creed boards are private, so we all run these boards the way we please. Have you not seen how the Fuhrer and I run this show?

Look, we dont allow attacks on other boards, other members [same board or not], or anyone in general. Albiet, he has the right to post this, his question does not warrant most of your responces. This belongs in Chat-O-Rama because it has nothing to do with Scott Stapp or his music.

Its pretty simple, if you dont like what is being said or done - DONT GO IN, DO NOT POST, just dont. If you dont like how another board talks about us - dont post there. We dont need you or anyone else to defend us. If you dont like what someone else is saying about Stapp/AB/Creed then dont post in there. Just let it be, the only thing you are going to do is help instigate the argument and you will suffer the same reprocusions as everyone else. What do you people have to gain by arguing a dead cause?

[DekWannaBFlea]

No its not and no he did nothing wrong, he clearly stated his purpose in asking other if they saw that board in the same way he did. He did not deliberatley or subtley attack that board, that site, anyone in specific, nor did he attack Stapp. He asked other of thier opinions of that board. ALL current AB/Stapp/Creed boards are private, so we all run these boards the way we please. Have you not seen how the Fuhrer and I run this show?

Look, we dont allow attacks on other boards, other members [same board or not], or anyone in general. Albiet, he has the right to post this, his question does not warrant most of your responces. This belongs in Chat-O-Rama because it has nothing to do with Scott Stapp or his music.

Its pretty simple, if you dont like what is being said or done - DONT GO IN, DO NOT POST, just dont. If you dont like how another board talks about us - dont post there. We dont need you or anyone else to defend us. If you dont like what someone else is saying about Stapp/AB/Creed then dont post in there. Just let it be, the only thing you are going to do is help instigate the argument and you will suffer the same reprocusions as everyone else. What do you people have to gain by arguing a dead cause?

Thank you, and yes i wasn't attacking scott, if Ab did the same thing i would be pissed......but since they haven't emailed me.....if ABB.net does the same thing i will tell everybody i don't like it.

Also, sorry for not putting in the right forum thats a mistake by me.

[Jooji_2]

its great for information and getting downloads and articles from. but not allowing negative postings....ummm don't they call that censorship? ;)

You are assuming that they just don't allow negative comments about Stapp...actually they don't allow bashing of anyone....Alter Bridge...and other websites included. That's something I can't say about any other Alter Bridge, Creed websites. :D

I'm aware of negative postings being removed from this site too. If its a private site its the decision of the person who runs it.

[Jooji_2]

Agreed, its a good site.......But still thats not what i am saying........It just seems like if you disagree with them you're going to get flamed hardcore. Atleast on this site in the Scott stapp forum there is some kind of open mindness. See what i am saying? When i say cultish i don't mean an actual cult i just say that to exagerate a point. But to illustrate my point.....http://passionbreedsfollowers.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2460&page=2&pp=10

I have NEVER seen the use of pictures of anybody on a fan site like that.......its like.....we know what scott looks like we don't need to see him hundreds of times.

This is an just an oberservation, I am not trying to say that passionbreeds followers is a bad site, i guess i just don't like the way they run the board.

I think they are kinda funny. There are other websites that feature pictures of AB band members too...what's the big deal? I hear one place has one of Kennedy that freaks people out...its so weird. You get tired of using the same freaking smilies all the time. I"ve been able to download video clips from there that were so outdated at other sites all you got was "page not available". I now have a copy of every video Creed ever made....all made possible because of that site. :D

If another site for another band had the same thing would you think it was cultish....or is it just because its a Stapp website?

I just don't go to sites if I don't like the way the run the board. :D

[ctfan]

because i checked it out.............and decided i didn't like it.....???

Ok, so just don't go there anymore. Or if you do, just skip over the message board, and go look at other things.

Quit ya bitching.

[musiclover291]

okay fair enough but educate me a bit further if you would. if i was to be accepted and i posted in an adult fashion how i believe stapp has let his fans down, and he is not held in the esteem i once held him in would i be hassled or banned?

If that is what you feel I would encourage you to post it at PBF. I think as long as you were respectful they would not have a problem with it. I was just over there and read a thread regarding Stapp health problems and people did voice complaints that they had about Stapp and no one was banned or deleted it was talked about in a respectful manner. I am a Stapp fan and he is not perfect and has made mistakes but the problem with some of the boards is the bashing and negative comments and this board just wants everyone to respectful but you can state something about Stapp that you don't like and it will be welcomed.

[musiclover291]

You are assuming that they just don't allow negative comments about Stapp...actually they don't allow bashing of anyone....Alter Bridge...and other websites included. That's something I can't say about any other Alter Bridge, Creed websites. :D

I'm aware of negative postings being removed from this site too. If its a private site its the decision of the person who runs it.

I agree some AB boards and some Creed boards have made very negative comments about Stapp and almost encourage bashing him non stop. So I just stop going to those boards and only go to the ones that are respectful.

[Shadow]

I haven't been here for a few weeks and I haven't read every post in this thread 100%. But, I will tell you that the people over at PBF are among the nicest group of people.

AB has their loyal followers and Scott has his. One should not discredit the other.

Myself, I have stopped reading and commenting on anything related to AB because it sooner or later turned into something negative about Scott and I just don't want to hear it.

[DekWannaBFlea]

Ok, so just don't go there anymore. Or if you do, just skip over the message board, and go look at other things.

Quit ya bitching.


Cool and i won't.

[Creed7352]

i tried to sign up over at PBF and never got an email...this was about 2-3 weeks ago. and DWBF...you don't have to get an "acceptance" email from us over at abb.net. it's a ezboard and you just register over there...ezboard sends you the confirmation email, not us.



--ryan

[TremontiRx]

A simple difference of opinion is apparently a threat to the adm. at pbf since they'll ban anyone who even appears to not reguard stapp as a role model.

Unless you like having other people tell you to only believe what they tell you and to disregard EVERYTHING you see, hear, read about stapp because it can't be *proven*....I suggest staying away from there (unless you simply find it entertaining) :D

[Ann Allusion]

TRX...haha...:roll:...YOU are entertaining ... ;)
NO ONE tells ANYONE what to believe.

[BobbyMcGee]

A simple difference of opinion is apparently a threat to the adm. at pbf since they'll ban anyone who even appears to not reguard stapp as a role model.

Unless you like having other people tell you to only believe what they tell you and to disregard EVERYTHING you see, hear, read about stapp because it can't be *proven*....I suggest staying away from there (unless you simply find it entertaining) :D

I've lurked over there and have never seen anyone tell anyone else that they "have" to believe anything. I haven't seen anyone that reguards Scott Stapp as a role model. From what I understand they respect each other's opinions, there have been some differences, but they seem to be able to "discuss" it quite civily without bashing each other and calling each other names.

And I'm curious TRX do you believe everything you see, hear and read and if the tables were turned how would you feel? Just curious that's all.
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[TremontiRx]

And I'm curious TRX do you believe everything you see, hear and read and if the tables were turned how would you feel?Do I believe everything? No, but when the same things are reported time and time again...and things are witnessed by personal friends and myself...I do tend to believe those things to be true. I can only give someone the benefit of the doubt as long as there is still doubt.

..and if the tables were turned....how?

[BobbyMcGee]

Do I believe everything? No, but when the same things are reported time and time again...and things are witnessed by personal friends and myself...I do tend to believe those things to be true. I can only give someone the benefit of the doubt as long as there is still doubt.

..and if the tables were turned....how?

I am just assuming here by your name that you are a Mark Tremonti fan and was wondering if the tables were turned and it was Mark that was getting all the bashing??? Not trying to stir anything up, just asking a simple question. I'm at a loss as to why everyone has to be so against each other?

I can only give someone the benefit of the doubt as long as there is still doubt.

Okay that's cool. I guess I just have a too forgiving heart. I tend to look beyond what a person has done in the past and look forward to the future. Life is too short ya know ;)
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[Dogstar]

I'm at a loss as to why everyone has to be so against each other?
Me, too!

[TremontiRx]

wondering if the tables were turned and it was Mark that was getting all the bashing??? Oh he gets puh-lenty of s-h-youknowwhat thrown his way. It's just that none of it is justified, so it's irrelevant.

[musiclover291]

I've lurked over there and have never seen anyone tell anyone else that they "have" to believe anything. I haven't seen anyone that reguards Scott Stapp as a role model. From what I understand they respect each other's opinions, there have been some differences, but they seem to be able to "discuss" it quite civily without bashing each other and calling each other names.

And I'm curious TRX do you believe everything you see, hear and read and if the tables were turned how would you feel? Just curious that's all.

I agree. My mother is a member at PBF and I visit the site alot and it is a great board and members do disagree but it is done in a respectful manner.

[musiclover291]

Oh he gets puh-lenty of s-h-youknowwhat thrown his way. It's just that none of it is justified, so it's irrelevant.

I agree that Mark is getting alot of bashing know just as much as Stapp but it is not fair to either Mark or Stapp. Stapp is said to have a big ego so what. What is the big deal.

[ctfan]

Oh he gets puh-lenty of s-h-youknowwhat thrown his way. It's just that none of it is justified, so it's irrelevant.

It's not justified?? :wtf: Puhleeezzz.

[BobbyMcGee]

Oh he gets puh-lenty of s-h-youknowwhat thrown his way. It's just that none of it is justified, so it's irrelevant.

So is that your opinion or did you read it, hear it or see it? And why is it irrelevant? Is it only revelvant if someone is bashing Scott? Enlighten me I am very confused here. It's okay to bash Scott but not Mark?
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[musiclover291]

So is that your opinion or did you read it, hear it or see it? And why is it irrelevant? Is it only revelvant if someone is bashing Scott? Enlighten me I am very confused here. It's okay to bash Scott but not Mark?

Amen!!!

[Ann Allusion]

Oh he gets puh-lenty of s-h-youknowwhat thrown his way. It's just that none of it is justified, so it's irrelevant.

:wtf: ...it's double standards are what aren't justified...

[BobbyMcGee]

:wtf: ...it's double standards are what aren't justified...

Thank you! :bow2:

I don't believe it's justified to bash anyone. Regardless.
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