Some thoughts

[musicmind226]

Hmm.....

I was thinking, creed might not be around for some time, espeacially if alter bridge and stapp's solo/acting efforts go through the roof.

Alter bridge could be creed minus stapp and a different name. Think about it, creed's ex-bassist an new singer. Maybe mark were just being generous and not being assess and didn't want to tell us that they just basically gave stapp the boot because of all the problems he was causing with the band.


Don't bash me, just some brain farts. I don't know, still I'm excited.

[aussiecreeder]

Hmm.....

I was thinking, creed might not be around for some time, espeacially if alter bridge and stapp's solo/acting efforts go through the roof.

Alter bridge could be creed minus stapp and a different name. Think about it, creed's ex-bassist an new singer. Maybe mark were just being generous and not being assess and didn't want to tell us that they just basically gave stapp the boot because of all the problems he was causing with the band.


Don't bash me, just some brain farts. I don't know, still I'm excited.

oh and they smell bad! :D

no really i would think it would quite difficult to give scott the boot as he seemed like he was the leader of the band. besides the chicago incident what has he done publically to be sacked? what did he do that forced the band to hold auditions? they struck out with kennedy in a big way but maybe they would have being like another band of late and hold auditions of r 12 months and knock back one after the other.

[aussiecreeder]

i was going to say something in a new thread but this seems like as good a place as any. what is with all the negativity on this board for the past couple of days? this i'm in the scott stapp or i'm in the mark camp is stupid and childish. we are all creed fans and lets make this place somewhere we all want to come to and have a bit of fun outside our working/school lives.

*end rant*

[Dogstar]

Well said, hide.

[hayley]

Man we've been through all this stuff before, about siding. I agree with you, handmedown, it is stuipd and childish, and I don't know why people do it. :wtf: Oh well. Shit happens I guess.

[johellion]

oh and they smell bad! :D

no really i would think it would quite difficult to give scott the boot as he seemed like he was the leader of the band. besides the chicago incident what has he done publically to be sacked? what did he do that forced the band to hold auditions? they struck out with kennedy in a big way but maybe they would have being like another band of late and hold auditions of r 12 months and knock back one after the other.


I would say it would NOT be difficult....A band issopose to be one in a WHOLE inity(that is the way it started....BROTHERS...close).....Stapp was the LEAD singer....he tried to be the leader of the band...I am sure that is what the problem was and is...I don't need to say any more....

[hayley]

Yes, SIR !! :rolleyes:

[DangerousDan85]

i was going to say something in a new thread but this seems like as good a place as any. what is with all the negativity on this board for the past couple of days? this i'm in the scott stapp or i'm in the mark camp is stupid and childish. we are all creed fans and lets make this place somewhere we all want to come to and have a bit of fun outside our working/school lives.

*end rant*

my thoughts exactly, I like both Scott and Mark and I will buy both of their cds. it's not a competition, it's music. So let's just try to enjoy it.

[Bridge of Clay]

ditto!

[TeriB19]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What they said.

[creedsister]

I would say it would NOT be difficult....A band issopose to be one in a WHOLE inity(that is the way it started....BROTHERS...close).....Stapp was the LEAD singer....he tried to be the leader of the band...I am sure that is what the problem was and is...I don't need to say any more....
HaHa I know And A DAMN Good LEADER HE WAS AT THAT, Wouldnt You Say, Na That Mite Hurt Wouldnt It

[Shadow]

What Dan said - that goes for me too :D

[aussiecreeder]

I would say it would NOT be difficult....A band issopose to be one in a WHOLE inity(that is the way it started....BROTHERS...close).....Stapp was the LEAD singer....he tried to be the leader of the band...I am sure that is what the problem was and is...I don't need to say any more....

sorry for hijacking your thread musicmind btw haven't seen you around in a little while! anyhow johellion i think scott was the leader in a sense because that is naturally is personality and the other members are more reserved. he didn't have the title to be leader he was the leader. see the difference?

back to the orignal topic and in answer to the question. the only way i can see alter bridge and creed co-existing is if they are vastly different bands with completely different sounds much like with Maynard with Tool and A Perfect Circle.

[tremonti4life04]

Doesn't beating a dead horse get tiring after a while? I mean, i've noticed that we have went over pretty much all what-if's (no pun intended). I believe that it would be healthier to take everything one step at a time and not sit on the board and fret over everything. There are too many what if's that we wont have answers to until both stapp and tremonti have their cd's out, are both touring, and both make some sort of public announcement concerning their plans for Creed. Oh, and to the person that started this thread, it wouldnt be creed minus scott stapp, because there is positivly no creed without stapp. Every band member had their part in making creed, but without stapp they would just be Reed, think abou it, he was the lead singer, the lead personality, the main voice of the band, and the most intense showman when it came to a live show. Stapp couldnt be replaced in a million years within the band, and the band still be Creed minus stapp. That would be like Tool minus Maynard James Keenan, Bon Jovi without Jon Bon Jovi, or Metallica without James Hetfield. None of those bands would be the same without their lead singer, none of them would have the right to call themselves that if they lost their lead singer.

[Jez]

Doesn't beating a dead horse get tiring after a while? I mean, i've noticed that we have went over pretty much all what-if's (no pun intended). I believe that it would be healthier to take everything one step at a time and not sit on the board and fret over everything. There are too many what if's that we wont have answers to until both stapp and tremonti have their cd's out, are both touring, and both make some sort of public announcement concerning their plans for Creed. Oh, and to the person that started this thread, it wouldnt be creed minus scott stapp, because there is positivly no creed without stapp. Every band member had their part in making creed, but without stapp they would just be Reed, think abou it, he was the lead singer, the lead personality, the main voice of the band, and the most intense showman when it came to a live show. Stapp couldnt be replaced in a million years within the band, and the band still be Creed minus stapp. That would be like Tool minus Maynard James Keenan, Bon Jovi without Jon Bon Jovi, or Metallica without James Hetfield. None of those bands would be the same without their lead singer, none of them would have the right to call themselves that if they lost their lead singer.

*bows down*
((And all CREED'S people said...))

AMEN!

[aussiecreeder]

Doesn't beating a dead horse get tiring after a while? I mean, i've noticed that we have went over pretty much all what-if's (no pun intended). I believe that it would be healthier to take everything one step at a time and not sit on the board and fret over everything. There are too many what if's that we wont have answers to until both stapp and tremonti have their cd's out, are both touring, and both make some sort of public announcement concerning their plans for Creed. Oh, and to the person that started this thread, it wouldnt be creed minus scott stapp, because there is positivly no creed without stapp. Every band member had their part in making creed, but without stapp they would just be Reed, think abou it, he was the lead singer, the lead personality, the main voice of the band, and the most intense showman when it came to a live show. Stapp couldnt be replaced in a million years within the band, and the band still be Creed minus stapp. That would be like Tool minus Maynard James Keenan, Bon Jovi without Jon Bon Jovi, or Metallica without James Hetfield. None of those bands would be the same without their lead singer, none of them would have the right to call themselves that if they lost their lead singer.

what if creed didn't have stapp
what if they got respect
what if shredding was the flavour of the month
would hair bands descend again
would poison come back
for a reunion tour
damn you tremonti its all your fault
what if you lied?

:D

[johellion]

Yes, SIR !! :rolleyes:

You mean yes mam....hehehe ;)

[Shadow]

Doesn't beating a dead horse get tiring after a while? I mean, i've noticed that we have went over pretty much all what-if's (no pun intended). I believe that it would be healthier to take everything one step at a time and not sit on the board and fret over everything. There are too many what if's that we wont have answers to until both stapp and tremonti have their cd's out, are both touring, and both make some sort of public announcement concerning their plans for Creed. Oh, and to the person that started this thread, it wouldnt be creed minus scott stapp, because there is positivly no creed without stapp. Every band member had their part in making creed, but without stapp they would just be Reed, think abou it, he was the lead singer, the lead personality, the main voice of the band, and the most intense showman when it came to a live show. Stapp couldnt be replaced in a million years within the band, and the band still be Creed minus stapp. That would be like Tool minus Maynard James Keenan, Bon Jovi without Jon Bon Jovi, or Metallica without James Hetfield. None of those bands would be the same without their lead singer, none of them would have the right to call themselves that if they lost their lead singer.

:stappchic
:kiss:
:flowers:
:bow2: :bow2:

Well Said!!!!!!! Thank you

[johellion]

sorry for hijacking your thread musicmind btw haven't seen you around in a little while! anyhow johellion i think scott was the leader in a sense because that is naturally is personality and the other members are more reserved. he didn't have the title to be leader he was the leader. see the difference?

back to the orignal topic and in answer to the question. the only way i can see alter bridge and creed co-existing is if they are vastly different bands with completely different sounds much like with Maynard with Tool and A Perfect Circle.

They are going to be vastly different....with a different sound...My son was at Brians, for a few months, and was able to hear AB on several occasions, as well as talking to Brian.....I am told this music was gonna blow us away!!

As far as Stapp....if you want to talk about that futher....we can PM... :D

[Jooji_2]

Doesn't beating a dead horse get tiring after a while? I mean, i've noticed that we have went over pretty much all what-if's (no pun intended). I believe that it would be healthier to take everything one step at a time and not sit on the board and fret over everything. There are too many what if's that we wont have answers to until both stapp and tremonti have their cd's out, are both touring, and both make some sort of public announcement concerning their plans for Creed. Oh, and to the person that started this thread, it wouldnt be creed minus scott stapp, because there is positivly no creed without stapp. Every band member had their part in making creed, but without stapp they would just be Reed, think abou it, he was the lead singer, the lead personality, the main voice of the band, and the most intense showman when it came to a live show. Stapp couldnt be replaced in a million years within the band, and the band still be Creed minus stapp. That would be like Tool minus Maynard James Keenan, Bon Jovi without Jon Bon Jovi, or Metallica without James Hetfield. None of those bands would be the same without their lead singer, none of them would have the right to call themselves that if they lost their lead singer.

Hell Yeah...... :D :D :D :D :D

[johellion]

HaHa I know And A DAMN Good LEADER HE WAS AT THAT, Wouldnt You Say, Na That Mite Hurt Wouldnt It

And why Mite that hurt me Creedsis?..Why did you even say that?..Do you KNOW him? I have not talked to the man since 2000, but I have to say I have been around the dude(all of them as a matter of fact) from the very beginning...I will not argue on this board....but if you would like to talk ....feel free to PM me.

[Jooji_2]

And why Mite that hurt me Creedsis?..Why did you even say that?..Do you KNOW him? I have not talked to the man since 2000, but I have to say I have been around the dude(all of them as a matter of fact) from the very beginning...I will not argue on this board....but if you would like to talk ....feel free to PM me.

You haven't talked to him in almost four years.....but you are willing to spill your guts about him in a private message?

I for one am not interested in all the gossip you like to hint that you know about someone you haven't seen in years.....sorry.

[hayley]

You mean yes mam....hehehe;)
:eek: I'm sorry, lol

[johellion]

You haven't talked to him in almost four years.....but you are willing to spill your guts about him in a private message?

I for one am not interested in all the gossip you like to hint that you know about someone you haven't seen in years.....sorry.

Look Dude or chick or whoever you are....a person said something TO ME....and it did not reflect on you at all....I DO NOT spill my guts to anyone....I will be willing to talk to this person maturely...I NEVER devulge anything that I shouldn't...and so what... if I haven't talked to him in 4 yrs.I think a persons personality is given from birth....I was around him/them off and on from 96...I am 47 yrs old!!!! I don't gossip!!! Never have....and If I say anything...it is the truth....So ...YOU my friend get off your high horse!!! I will not argue with you on a BB....Like I said if you want to talk about it PM me.....That does NOT mean gossip!!!! I said TALK!!!

[Jez]

Oy.....

Please, let's keep this calm or this thread will get locked :D

[TeriB19]

Ladies, settle this through PM's or it will be closed.

[Shadow]

Oy.....

Please, let's keep this calm or this thread will get locked :D
Hi Stace.

Why can't everyone just leave Scott alone.

johellion, I'm sorry, but your precious Brian wouldn't be where he is today if it wasn't for Scott. You are obviously bias. Brian is no angel, you can't tell me that he hasn't been in a few fights.

I am so tired of everybody thinking that Mark and Michael walk on water. If it wasn't for Scott Stapp being who he was and is, Creed would have never happened. Everyone seems to forget who wrote 95% of the lyrics. He's an amazing songwriter, singer and stage performer.

And you can't tell me that it wasn't wrong of Mark calling Myles something like "the best in the world". Pleeeeezzzzeee. It's like he's stabbing Scott in the back by saying that.

I'm so frustrated I even forgot what this thread was about in the first place. :(

[Echelon122]

So one can say "Brian (Flip or Mark) wouldn't be where they are without Stapp.

Yet, you can't dare say "Scott wouldn't be where he was without them"???

Wow...hell of a double standard there.


johellion were you on Creednet? JECF40 right??

[chafin24]

you what scott stapp really shows the lack of maturity,and he is like 30 something he really needs to grow up.I am glad mark and scott p and brian m and myles are mature. Its shows that mark tremonti has grown up in the past couple of years.

[RockGoddess]

I am confused as to what people want. Do they WANT a Creed-y band, and are just upset that Scott isn't in it. Do they want a clear separation between the two?

I have seen Alter Bridge in person. They are not Creed. Not in any way, shape or form. I don't understand begrudging Mark and Stapp the opportunity or the desire to move on.

Could it just be that Mark chose bandmates with whom he was already familiar? He knows their work, he knows their talents, he knows what kind of product he can expect from them. Could it just be that he had heard of Myles' talent and thought that it would fit into the direction he wanted to take? Could it just be that the lead singer of his other band was off doing other things?

Could it be that Stapp wanted to explore other avenues? That he wanted to work with other producers, other musicians?

Seriously, there are bigger issues in the world.

I wish both these men great success.

[chafin24]

People its time to move on.

[creedsister]

And why Mite that hurt me Creedsis?..Why did you even say that?..Do you KNOW him? I have not talked to the man since 2000, but I have to say I have been around the dude(all of them as a matter of fact) from the very beginning...I will not argue on this board....but if you would like to talk ....feel free to PM me. With all due respects, I Really Dont Want To Talk To You Or Pm You, And I dont Want To Argue, With You Either U take care now

[johellion]

So one can say "Brian (Flip or Mark) wouldn't be where they are without Stapp.

Yet, you can't dare say "Scott wouldn't be where he was without them"???

Wow...hell of a double standard there.


johellion were you on Creednet? JECF40 right??

Hell No!!!.... They would not be there without each other!!!...,... Brian was playing perfessionally for a long time before Stapp!!! They all meet up!! By word of mouth ..I guess..and there u go!!!... Brian was on the music scene all through out college...He has played music and been in bands thought out college for his living!!! I don' t know abou :D t the other guys...BTM was a lie/.... all I know is what I know ...ok!!! YES I AM JECF40@aol.com///

[chafin24]

He was also raised on music, and in the mean time continue to checkout headheavy.com for updates. :rockon:

[johellion]

Hi Stace.

Why can't everyone just leave Scott alone.

johellion, I'm sorry, but your precious Brian wouldn't be where he is today if it wasn't for Scott. You are obviously bias. Brian is no angel, you can't tell me that he hasn't been in a few fights.

I am so tired of everybody thinking that Mark and Michael walk on water. If it wasn't for Scott Stapp being who he was and is, Creed would have never happened. Everyone seems to forget who wrote 95% of the lyrics. He's an amazing songwriter, singer and stage performer.

And you can't tell me that it wasn't wrong of Mark calling Myles something like "the best in the world". Pleeeeezzzzeee. It's like he's stabbing Scott in the back by saying that.

I'm so frustrated I even forgot what this thread was about in the first place. :(



And are you telling me STAPPO!!! is an angel!!!Stapp didnot hunt Brian down the other guys did!!!!. Brian was already playing music proffsisonally in the music scene for many years!!!.Look I am 47 yrs old...ok...I am not gonna hear your SHIT!!! FUCK YOU! and get a life.. We are talking about a band!!! my close relation has noting to do with it!!

[chafin24]

I think its great that brian is back with old guys, and myles is gonna be great and the best is yet to come. What i am trying to say is people its time move on. It appears they have already.

[johellion]

I think its great that brian is back with old guys, and myles is gonna be great and the best is yet to come. What i am trying to say is people its time move on. It appears they have already.

You have it going on GIRLFRIEND!!!!! rock and roll!! :D

[Mulletman]

Careful, if you cannot make your point accross without demeaning someone of using vulgar language - then take it somewhere else.