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Axeman24
10-29-2002, 09:05 PM
you guyz...i am a little unsure about something, but i need to talk to the dude who wrote that hidden chronicle page, i do believe i found myself some writing that he hasn't talked about just yet...on the inner page of weathered, with the bell on the ground, and the tree...there is writing on the bell...somebody tell me what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think it's like Pat 26...but what the hell does that mean?

Steve
10-29-2002, 10:14 PM
Please take a copy of the artwork on the Internet, zoom in on the area you are referring to and mark it out.. then send me an email with the graphic so I can see what you are talking about.

Axeman24
10-29-2002, 10:19 PM
sorry dude, i'm unable to do that right now....but it's at the top of the bell...it's pretty easy to see....but i can hardly make it out:confused:

CollectiveSoul
10-30-2002, 03:56 PM
ya hthere s alot missing .there is talking on that intro of Stand Here wit hMe that yo ucan barley make out.

Axeman24
10-30-2002, 04:04 PM
i didn't even know that there was hidden talking on SHWM...i was just browsing the covers the other day, and i saw the writing on the top of the bell...and i'm dying to know what it is...

Said Eyes
10-31-2002, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by Axeman24
i need to talk to the dude who wrote that hidden chronicle page
Shoot

Also, http://www.marktremonti.net/Artwork/weathered4.jpg try pointing it out on that pic. It help a lot to be able to see what you're talking about. If you need hosting just let me know.

Axeman24
10-31-2002, 03:57 PM
ahhhh, well i suppose it helped a little...but i still can't clearly see what it is...it's really hard to explain but it's at the very top of the bell...
/ <--that is where the writing is on the bell
( )<---- that is the big round bottom part of the bell

Unforgiven Fan
10-31-2002, 05:27 PM
here:

http://www.geocities.com/mfo291/bell72.html

it is PA 72

PA=Pennsylvania???
72=1772,1872,1972???

but has to be connected to something but don't know yet...

maybe it is time to vist google...

Axeman24
10-31-2002, 05:33 PM
i would agree...but it also looks like it could say PAT 2...but then again your PA 72 also looks to be a factor...i'll do some research and get back to you guyz

Unforgiven Fan
10-31-2002, 06:13 PM
I would agree to a PAT 2 but the "T" is slanted and only letter or number that can resemeble a T is a seven (7) in this case and the slant is going in the same direction has the (7)

faceless kiwi
10-31-2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by CollectiveSoul
ya hthere s alot missing .there is talking on that intro of Stand Here wit hMe that yo ucan barley make out.

I didnt know that.
There is also on lullaby, right at the end, but it is impossible to hear what is being said, it is so so so quiet.

Said Eyes
10-31-2002, 11:22 PM
Am I the only one that sees AP? (http://members.optushome.com.au/bfairfax/sa/pa.jpg)

Steve
11-01-2002, 11:11 AM
It's the ALLEN PARSONS PROJECT!!!!

TeriB19
11-01-2002, 11:35 AM
Games People Play!!! Love that group. Maybe Creed are fans too?;) :D

Axeman24
11-01-2002, 03:49 PM
i was doing some math last night...and i was thinking...i dunno where mark tremonti was born...i'm bout to check that out...but maybe PA 72 was when and where he was born...just an idea

hide_tremonti
11-02-2002, 01:22 AM
mark was born in detroit in 74 i think
72 may be stapp
any stapp freaks in here?
:)
cheers

Dogstar
11-02-2002, 01:31 AM
You are in the land of Stapp freaks. Believe he was born in '73. Maybe it's Pennsylvania state road 72 or something like that. I have no clue, actually.:D

Axeman24
11-02-2002, 10:22 AM
Perhaps Brian Marshall...notice how the bell is broken away from the rope...perhaps that could be his birth place/year.

Unforgiven Fan
11-02-2002, 04:26 PM
marshall is born in 74......

Axeman24
11-02-2002, 08:13 PM
!@#$%^&....well that only leaves one dude...mr. phillips...i have no clue as to where and when he was born, but he's the only dude left lol

hide_tremonti
11-02-2002, 08:39 PM
flip is 29 (i think he turned 29 in feb/march)
any flip freaks in here?
:)
cheers

TeriB19
11-02-2002, 08:46 PM
Flip Freak? No, but Flip Fan, yessiree. I like Flip, he seems like a very even keeled, down to earth kind of guy. Dry sense of humor which I like very much. And he's not too bad on the eyes himself. Oh, yeah, and he can play those damn drums!!

Axeman24
11-02-2002, 08:52 PM
well...if Flip is 29...that makes him born in '73...and NO ONE in Creed was born in '72..so that marks out birthdates...what else could it be?

Unforgiven Fan
11-02-2002, 10:05 PM
what about Daniel Tremo?..he is the one that does the artwork...

Axeman24
11-02-2002, 10:18 PM
could be, i suppose he's right around Marks' age...but even if he was born in '72 we still gotta figure out what that PA is...past actions....ummm....pennsylvania...poopy ages lol

souldancer
11-03-2002, 03:09 AM
LOL! What a great thread, from beginning to end, all you CreedFreaks working together on the mystery...sorry I can't help, but sure enjoying your detective work! Hmmmm PA...maybe it is is for Penn, for the Liberty Bell, and is symbolizing a weathered rope with the bell of freedom broken... like I said, sorry, I can;t help... :)

Axeman24
11-03-2002, 08:50 AM
::thinking long and hard:: ya think if we went to the liberty bell...it'd have more writing on it? or maybe all their equipment is under a big tarp INSIDE the bell lol...you never know!

CollectiveSoul
11-03-2002, 10:23 PM
Hilaree...shes younder than scott. could be hilaree broke away from Scott. hey! i think i found something here

hide_tremonti
11-04-2002, 04:32 AM
but what's hillaree's relation to PA 72?
:)
cheers

Axeman24
11-04-2002, 03:48 PM
perhaps she was born in Penn in 72...

Unforgiven Fan
11-04-2002, 04:42 PM
hillary, I though was younger than stapp so that does not qualify...mmm I puzzled...

PaulMcCoygirl
11-05-2002, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Axeman24
you guyz...i am a little unsure about something, but i need to talk to the dude who wrote that hidden chronicle page, i do believe i found myself some writing that he hasn't talked about just yet...on the inner page of weathered, with the bell on the ground, and the tree...there is writing on the bell...somebody tell me what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! i think it's like Pat 26...but what the hell does that mean?


OMG!! I saw that too! At first I thought it was just my eyes but then I used a magnifying glas and saw it clearer. :eek:

Axeman24
11-05-2002, 08:17 PM
lol, you saw right my friend, we're trying to figure out what it means...i just watched "behind the music" about Creed and i couldn't relate any of the dates to any members of Creed so i suppose it HAS to be Hillarie, they broke up didn't they? hillarie and Scott?

Unforgiven Fan
11-05-2002, 09:04 PM
yep...

Axeman24
11-05-2002, 09:29 PM
well the bell's broken away from the rope...that's GOTTA be hillarie

Wylde-Tremonti
11-05-2002, 09:30 PM
i was thinkin....the rope reminds me of a noose....maybe it has to do with the WTLF guy.....the one who comitted suicide......maybe it has to do w/ him?...just a thought.....

PaulMcCoygirl
11-05-2002, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Axeman24
<b>lol, you saw right my friend, we're trying to figure out what it means...i just watched "behind the music" about Creed and i couldn't relate any of the dates to any members of Creed so i suppose it HAS to be Hillarie, they broke up didn't they? hillarie and Scott? </b>

I just finished watching BTM with Creed too and I was trying to figure it out. You're probably right that it has to do with Hilaree.:confused:

Axeman24
11-06-2002, 03:39 PM
i'll have to do some mad research, just to find out how old hillarie is lol...it's GOTTA be a birthdate...and PA most likely means Pennsylvania...that's all we have...lol...we're going NOWHERE

Unforgiven Fan
11-06-2002, 04:59 PM
see has the southern sound to her voice so PA area may not fit..

Axeman24
11-06-2002, 05:32 PM
well lets keep all ideas open...she could have been born there and moved...i was born in VA and moved to CT...and i have northern accent instead of southern...but you maybe right my friend, :bounce: gerrrrrrrrrrrrrr how bout we all find out Creed's Email address and send them some mail?

Unforgiven Fan
11-07-2002, 04:46 PM
we could go bug daniel at 3 mountain....

Axeman24
11-07-2002, 05:28 PM
HOLD UP! during BTM didn't scott say that he was always interested in older women????? SHE'S GOTTA BE OLDER THAN HIM

Unforgiven Fan
11-07-2002, 05:51 PM
:dunno: :confused:

The-Seeker
11-07-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Axeman24
i was doing some math last night...and i was thinking...i dunno where mark tremonti was born...i'm bout to check that out...but maybe PA 72 was when and where he was born...just an idea
I live in the Detroit area. That is where Mark was born. I cant think of anywhere that PA 72 might come from.

Axeman24
11-07-2002, 06:17 PM
::Hits a dead wall:: pa.......72....P is the 16th letter in the alphabet...A is one...16+1=17...how is 17 related to 72...naw...that couldn't be it...pennsylvania...in 1972...1872...1772...pennsylvania...isn' that the keystone state? what's pennsylvania's nickname? i think it's the keystone state

The-Seeker
11-07-2002, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Axeman24
::Hits a dead wall:: pa.......72....P is the 16th letter in the alphabet...A is one...16+1=17...how is 17 related to 72...naw...that couldn't be it...pennsylvania...in 1972...1872...1772...pennsylvania...isn' that the keystone state? what's pennsylvania's nickname? i think it's the keystone state
I think your thinking too deeply into this

Axeman24
11-07-2002, 08:39 PM
i think the keystone state might have something to do with it....hmmmmm...

creedfaner
11-08-2002, 11:21 AM
:dunno:

hide_tremonti
11-10-2002, 01:54 AM
i know nothing about america ... i'll leave y'all toying with that one

i thought hillaree left cos she was young and wanted to experience things....i thought she was in her early 20s

Axeman24
11-10-2002, 12:39 PM
next time Creed has a Q&A we'll have to ask about hillaries age, PA 72...@#$%^& WHAT DOES IT MEAN grrrrr, it's been buggin me for awhile now lol

Shoebird
11-13-2002, 01:48 AM
I was just thinking, it would really be cool if things were hidden in the tabs of the music.

:confused: Of course, this would add a whole new plane of problems for anyone trying to sort through this whole mystery.

Axeman24
11-13-2002, 03:46 PM
yea, but think of it this way....if Mark dedicated some tabs for like hidden stuff...it wouldn't sound right...like they'd have to adapt their music so they could hide some hidden stuff in there

Shoebird
11-14-2002, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I guess so...

Unless the mystery was adapted to the notation instead of vice versa, that is. :( Whatever, it hurts my brain to think about the possibilities!! :P

Axeman24
11-14-2002, 05:05 PM
same here, i've basically like hit a wall with this PA 72 stuff...but i'm so curious it keeps me going, i've GOT to find out what it is...and what it means

Xterminator27
11-18-2002, 12:50 PM
I cant see the writing!

Mulletman
11-18-2002, 01:44 PM
im not even gonna try

allison
11-25-2002, 11:30 AM
Can someone please post the link or the address to that hidden chronicles page here? I thought there was a link to it somewhere on the board but I can't seem to find it. THANKS!

Axeman24
11-25-2002, 05:10 PM
you can find the link to the hidden chronicles page on the main creedfeed.com page and the page itself is very interesting, seems they put a LOT of work into it!!!! lol, way too much work for me, i gotta move around and all that good stuff, not just make music lol, i can't put forth tHAT much effort lol

hide_tremonti
11-26-2002, 06:48 AM
um www.creedprison.cjb.net (http://www.creedprison.cjb.net) is better. it's said eye's site

hotforscott
11-26-2002, 10:48 AM
hilaree is 24, scott ws born in 74, I know none of the members were born in 72, could it have something to do with Brian Marshall, when was he born? i know that he got booted out of the band, but that was in 2000, when did they first start doing the artwork and albumwork for weathered. Probably nothing there with Brian, but it was just a thought. what about one of those high school and college friends on behind the music. could it be a good friends birthdate and birthplace? completely clueless.

allison
11-26-2002, 02:17 PM
Found the hidden stuff page. thanks guys!

Axeman24
11-26-2002, 04:30 PM
you have ideas :) and that's a start right? behind the music is all i can think of now. If none of the members were born in 72...hmmm...well i assure you that i'm going to get to the bottom of this grrrrrrrrrr, perhaps we have to wait till like the next album to find out, ya never know

hide_tremonti
11-27-2002, 05:08 PM
is it even a birthdate?

Axeman24
11-27-2002, 08:18 PM
i don't know....PA obviously means Pennsylvania.......72 could mean 1772 1872 1972.....we don't know

theory
11-27-2002, 09:11 PM
well i had a thought, i live in oklahoma so im not sure about this but could the 72 mean highway 72 im not sure if there is a highway 72 in PA but just droppin some ideas

Axeman24
11-27-2002, 09:18 PM
could be, we're running blind here, i suppose we'll have to wait for the next Creed Q&A to ask the Scott's and Mark about PA 72

hide_tremonti
11-28-2002, 12:38 AM
you really can't be sure that PA refers to pensylvania (sp?) or that 72 is a year.

"look outside the square you live in" <-- keep an open mind

DangerousDan85
11-28-2002, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by hotforscott
hilaree is 24, scott ws born in 74

He was born in 1973

DangerousDan85
11-28-2002, 01:14 AM
did u mean flip. because Stapp was born in 73

Wylde-Tremonti
11-28-2002, 11:36 AM
....maybe there is no real meaning behind it....maybe they just threw it in there to throw us off!......yeah there's sumthin else there......i bet.........

hotforscott
11-28-2002, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by DangerousDan85
did u mean flip. because Stapp was born in 73


sorry it was a typo

Axeman24
11-28-2002, 08:21 PM
well, i don't suppose that it's totally useless hahaha, but ya never know, i've never heard of useless Creed items, but we'll see

BrokenSector
12-08-2002, 12:15 PM
I don't see it guys, I've looked at all of you pictures, and I still can't see anything..:(

thecandylady
12-20-2002, 02:11 AM
Could the writing be just the artists signature ..maybe? just a thought:rolleyes:

Steve
12-20-2002, 09:57 AM
Someone highlight the "PA" you see... all I see is "AP" ?

BigBassDrummer
12-28-2002, 02:40 AM
there IS a route 72 in PA... but I dunno what significance, if any, it would have to Creed.

Tremonti_Cobain
12-28-2002, 08:46 PM
Hey guys, I'm new here..but i have an idea...
Isn't tremonti part italian... maybe its the date that his family arrived from italy...

OR

Aren't they kind of religious???
maybe it's something related to the bible....

Wylde-Tremonti
12-28-2002, 08:52 PM
...there's no Book w/ the abreviation "PA"....so i don't think its that