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TheGreatDivide
11-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Finally done with Isolation! Holy crap. Just did a 19 hour session!!

To all those who have asked me- the new AB video I did for Isolation premieres on Dec 1st on AOL. The band may sneak preview some this week

Alter Bridge Live From Amsterdam will be released in the US on Jan 11th (for real) and will air on VH-1/ Palladia on Dec 19th at 9:00 pm

It will be released in Europe in December

Hoping its an actual music video and not some concert throw together.

TrulyAmazing
11-21-2010, 02:34 PM
Divided one you really have a hardtime of keep your story straight, is,nt you that said and i QUOTE ;) that since The Release Of AB 3 , this place has been dead, and now you talking about the bands videos, and hoping for this that, :laugh: :laugh: i say unto you, from he that dwell that surley told me to make peace with all my brethren and all men, all though its hard we do, peace be with you,

Agent D
11-21-2010, 04:21 PM
I bet it's just concert footage. No one puts efforts into high-concept music videos anymore.

Dark_Knight
11-22-2010, 12:09 AM
It's another live video :( from Dan:

The Isolation video is a montage of behind the scenes moments from their current tour with lots of live performance footage. It is really special and showcases the band at their best. You get an intimate look at their lives on the road and they were gracious enough to allow cameras roll on their personal lives too. It is a real celebration of their fans and and a big thank you from the band guys. You can see how much fun they are having over there and also how big this is getting.

Hope you all like it. It was an honor to do this one, as they are insanely dedicated and really care about all of you guys and I think you will see that first hand with this video.

DC

nagpo
11-22-2010, 01:57 AM
What's the point of live videos?

Dark_Knight
11-23-2010, 12:36 AM
Teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQC_NXUXjJk

^Looking better than I thought... ending is hilarious lol

Edit: From Dan:

All the people wishing for a video full of actors and a storyline need to understand that the band has had an insane schedule and there has not been one day free to shoot something. Rather than be grateful about the band allowing cameras follow them around 24/7 to give you a glimpse into their world, you choose to complain. If you have nothing positive to say then keep your opinion to yourself because these guys are working their butts off and deserve all the support they can get. I personally rather see live performance segments and behind the scenes footage than a band playing on a rooftop with scenes of actors skipping through fields of flowers because what was just shown to you IS REAL! The days of traditional music videos are gone- get over it. If you want to see a video full of actors- go watch a Lady Gaga or Puffy video on YouTube, as the Pop and Urban artists still choose to shoot million dollar videos, even though record sales suck right now. If you really want a AB video like that- you can always offer to write a check for $500k-$1 million and I'm sure I can talk them into shooting a special video just for you.

Enough said

DC

TrulyAmazing
11-23-2010, 09:16 AM
I bet it's just concert footage. No one puts efforts into high-concept music videos anymore.
whatching that budget , the good Lord has greater things :roll: the live video concepts at this time, be the only option , Leave Lady Ga Ga Out Of It, she can,t help cuz she good.....:D and makes bigs budgets video,s to everything has a purpose under the heavens, 1 million dollar videos still has their place, Peace Be With Us......:rockon:

bilal
11-23-2010, 11:21 AM
Teaser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQC_NXUXjJk

^Looking better than I thought... ending is hilarious lol

Edit: From Dan:

Thanks for the link... its good.

And this Dan guy should stop making lame execuses, ofcourse, if he had a million dollar, he would be saying just how good concept videos are. Truth be told, Concept video kicks ass! Anyway, I understand that band is busy in tour and a concept video is not possible. And I like AB enough to want them in a concert video.

Fu** you Dan.

nagpo
11-23-2010, 12:15 PM
This is Dan Tremonti right?

Dan is an ass. No one asked for his opinion either. He's just a shitty middle man for his brother anyways.

TrulyAmazing
11-23-2010, 12:34 PM
peace be with us in jesus names, :) :laugh: Dan take it easy, lets be nice,:hugs k......its the weather so help me Lord,

TrulyAmazing
11-23-2010, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the link... its good.

And this Dan guy should stop making lame execuses, ofcourse, if he had a million dollar, he would be saying just how good concept videos are. Truth be told, Concept video kicks ass! Anyway, I understand that band is busy in tour and a concept video is not possible. And I like AB enough to want them in a concert video.

Fu** you Dan.
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nagpo
11-23-2010, 01:53 PM
(Video idea) Also, what's so difficult about getting the same crew and just have myles and the band play in locations around the current town their in and call that a video? Just start off Myles feeling lonely in his hotel room, walking down some European streets, singing Isolation because he's alone? That would not cost much at all. The could end the video with Myles meeting up with the band, as they begin to play the song together.

Inspired
11-23-2010, 02:33 PM
This is Dan Tremonti right?

Dan is an ass. No one asked for his opinion either. He's just a shitty middle man for his brother anyways.

I think you're referring to Micheal Tremonti, he is the shitty middle man/brother. Mark has another brother named Dan, but he is not this DC/Dan guy who is doing the video stuff.

nagpo
11-23-2010, 04:12 PM
My mistake.

TrulyAmazing
11-23-2010, 06:57 PM
(Video idea) Also, what's so difficult about getting the same crew and just have myles and the band play in locations around the current town their in and call that a video? Just start off Myles feeling lonely in his hotel room, walking down some European streets, singing Isolation because he's alone? That would not cost much at all. The could end the video with Myles meeting up with the band, as they begin to play the song together.
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Dark_Knight
11-23-2010, 09:16 PM
What's with the insults? Have some class & grow up. I thank God the band doesn't read through this forum.

nagpo
11-24-2010, 12:24 AM
Because Dan is basically telling us to shut up. He seems to forget that this country is based off of freedom and if I dislike something, I have every right to express my distaste for it. "Keep you opinions to yourself" Dan, howabout you stop reading fan forums if you dislike opinions so much.

Dark_Knight
11-24-2010, 04:05 AM
He explained the facts... I don't see anything that warranted an insult.

TheGreatDivide
11-24-2010, 10:50 AM
DK, I think the issue everyone has with Dan is the tone he used. Some probably feel he could have chose a nicer tone then the one we he used in the explanation.

TrulyAmazing
11-24-2010, 11:57 AM
He explained the facts... I don't see anything that warranted an insult.
:laugh: Somedays Anything One Says, may be taken as insult, Fred Durst,s Verse I Dont Wanna Look At You Today, Somedays Is Yes Bitter And Cynical ....which gave me the inspiration to write it just like that, .......:rockon:

TrulyAmazing
11-24-2010, 12:03 PM
Because Dan is basically telling us to shut up. He seems to forget that this country is based off of freedom and if I dislike something, I have every right to express my distaste for it. "Keep you opinions to yourself" Dan, howabout you stop reading fan forums if you dislike opinions so much.
yes AMEN this country is based off a freedom , not jumping back in to you And Dan,s Arguement, but a lot of peps have a lots of blessings and riches and freedom they mistreat, peace be with us in jesus name, :peacelove

Dark_Knight
11-24-2010, 02:23 PM
DK, I think the issue everyone has with Dan is the tone he used. Some probably feel he could have chose a nicer tone then the one we he used in the explanation.
Understandable... I think I should of explained that he was replying to the members over on TABN that kept complaining about the live video format & didn't realize that the band had limited time to even make a video. You can't knock a guy for taking up for himself & Alter Bridge... like I said he was just explaining the situation they're in.

TrulyAmazing
11-24-2010, 06:00 PM
Understandable... I think I should of explained that he was replying to the members over on TABN that kept complaining about the live video format & didn't realize that the band had limited time to even make a video. You can't knock a guy for taking up for himself & Alter Bridge... like I said he was just explaining the situation they're in.
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Inspired
11-24-2010, 09:16 PM
I think this happens often when people create things and then get caught up in public opinion of it on the internet. Not everyone is going to like what a person does and reading comments can make people defensive and say things that are unprofessional as in this case. There is something to be said for distance between a creator and the public, especially on the internet.

King Oropher
11-24-2010, 09:53 PM
I'm entitled to Overcome!

TrulyAmazing
11-25-2010, 08:42 PM
I think this happens often when people create things and then get caught up in public opinion of it on the internet. Not everyone is going to like what a person does and reading comments can make people defensive and say things that are unprofessional as in this case. There is something to be said for distance between a creator and the public, especially on the internet.
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bilal
11-27-2010, 02:06 AM
You can't knock a guy for taking up for himself & Alter Bridge... like I said he was just explaining the situation they're in.

Everyone has the right to hold an opinion. Rather than explaining the situation, he is arguing with the Fans of Band.

Its the band's decision to invest more time in touring and not in making a decent video... and that's fine. Money constraints also exist. That's fine. But at least admit the truth. Isolation deserved a better video. How many of us go back to watch the video for Ties That Binds. It was a disappointment too.

This Dan guy should not argue with the fans of Alter Bridge for wanting a better video. There is nothing wrong with that. We all understand where the Band stands and we support it.

Dark_Knight
11-27-2010, 02:26 AM
We all understand where the Band stands and we support it.
That goes for a big part of the fan-base but not everyone unfortunately. Some fans are just selfish... and that goes for any band.

TrulyAmazing
11-27-2010, 12:01 PM
Everyone has the right to hold an opinion. Rather than explaining the situation, he is arguing with the Fans of Band.

Its the band's decision to invest more time in touring and not in making a decent video... and that's fine. Money constraints also exist. That's fine. But at least admit the truth. Isolation deserved a better video. How many of us go back to watch the video for Ties That Binds. It was a disappointment too.

This Dan guy should not argue with the fans of Alter Bridge for wanting a better video. There is nothing wrong with that. We all understand where the Band stands and we support it.
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Buried And Gone
11-27-2010, 04:27 PM
The movie "monsters" looks absolutely amazin. And was made for $15,000. So the there isnt enough budget argument is void. Also, the band does not have to be in the video. Videos today need to be weird, quirky, inventive and cheap. The idea is to get people who wouldn't normally watch the video to watch it. Chevelle's I Get It video doesn't have he band in it, but it had a great concept so it was very successfull and got A LOT of views. Isolation could have had a great video. I don't think that I have seen a group of people so good at doing harm to their careers and alienating their fanbase. I mean, this douchebag is arguing with the fans? If I paid some body to make me a video and my fans didn't like it so he went on there and started talking shit to my fans I would never hire him again. The band should come on here, so maybe they would understand what the fans want, and why thy aren't making us happy.

Inspired
11-27-2010, 09:51 PM
I don't think that I have seen a group of people so good at doing harm to their careers and alienating their fanbase. .

Great quote.



This guy is not the first who has worked for the band and "talked shit" to the fans, so I doubt they would have a problem hiring him again.

I don't think the band has any interest in making an artistic video (or an overall artistic album for that matter...).

The majority of their fan base eats up anything they do, supports their lifestyles and do not push them to challenge themselves, be artistic or substantially grow as artists.

nagpo
11-27-2010, 11:24 PM
aww shieet nigga.

Dark_Knight
11-28-2010, 01:27 AM
I love how you guys think the band OWES you something lol it's pathetic really. So you can talk trash about them personally and they can't reply or defend themselves?... if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. Dan told it like it was & only a few fans like yourselves can't take it - so you cry & complain to make yourselves feel better. My suggestion is to find a band you actually like instead of wasting your time with a band you constantly bash & nitpick every move they make. You're wasting your time.

bilal
11-28-2010, 02:10 AM
I love how you guys think the band OWES you something lol it's pathetic really. So you can talk trash about them personally and they can't reply or defend themselves?... if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. Dan told it like it was & only a few fans like yourselves can't take it - so you cry & complain to make yourselves feel better. My suggestion is to find a band you actually like instead of wasting your time with a band you constantly bash & nitpick every move they make. You're wasting your time.

Rather than making sides between us, lets just stick as a team. We all are fans of Alter Bridge. But of course, there are some of us who worship them, and then there are some who still arn't the die hards yet.

If you read this thread again, there is no one here who is actually bashing the Band, may be you have read some bad thing somewhere else. Here, most of us are not arguing against the Band but rather this Dan guy's comment, who seem to be talking so much on behalf of the band, and that too in a harsh tone. Some of us feel that the Band hasn't had the exposure it deserves, and may be a good solid video is just what the band needs. Now this is a commercial way of thinking and I understand that it is not the Band's top agenda and is one of the thing that makes the bad great. But there is nothing wrong with hoping that a great song is also complimented by a great video.

I respect your dedication to the band and that is awesome. But let just not divide ourselves and fight. We all want the best for the band, some are being realistic, and some are demanding more.

Dark_Knight
11-28-2010, 02:55 AM
^I suggest you read the thread again actually. I'm not just talking about this thread either... I've read some really disgusting comments here over the past year & a half. Also how am I dividing myself? if you're talking about me distancing myself from the negativity then yes, I guess I am divided. I have no interest in arguing on a discussion board about how the guys don't care about their fans or if they're doing Creed just for the money... it's ridiculous & immature. I'll always do my best to defend the band though, especially to people (so called "fans") who don't have a clue. I try at least.

Sometimes I wonder why I even post here... it's one gripe after the other & then it leads to attacks which I don't have time for. Opinions are fine but it's obvious that some people can't express themselves in a constructive manner. So with all due respect I'm really considering leaving for awhile... which I'm sure no one cares but I'd rather be a part of a community who is on the same "team" like you say instead of nitpicking everything the band does & taking jabs at family members and friends.

bilal
11-28-2010, 04:18 AM
^I suggest you read the thread again actually. I'm not just talking about this thread either... I've read some really disgusting comments here over the past year & a half. Also how am I dividing myself? if you're talking about me distancing myself from the negativity then yes, I guess I am divided. I have no interest in arguing on a discussion board about how the guys don't care about their fans or if they're doing Creed just for the money... it's ridiculous & immature. I'll always do my best to defend the band though, especially to people (so called "fans") who don't have a clue. I try at least.

Sometimes I wonder why I even post here... it's one gripe after the other & then it leads to attacks which I don't have time for. Opinions are fine but it's obvious that some people can't express themselves in a constructive manner. So with all due respect I'm really considering leaving for awhile... which I'm sure no one cares but I'd rather be a part of a community who is on the same "team" like you say instead of nitpicking everything the band does & taking jabs at family members and friends.


I personally think it would be a loss if you decide to leave... You have shared updates and news all this while. The forum owes you for that. Its a small community here... and just like everything, its not perfect. Nothing is suppose to be perfect :D You wouldn't be right if someone else isn't wrong. I have read the thread again and I get your point.

Stick around mate.

When is the Full length Video coming out?

nagpo
11-28-2010, 04:25 AM
This fucking thread is hilarious. rofl.

King Oropher
11-28-2010, 07:29 AM
Time for a makeover

TrulyAmazing
11-28-2010, 09:01 AM
^I suggest you read the thread again actually. I'm not just talking about this thread either... I've read some really disgusting comments here over the past year & a half. Also how am I dividing myself? if you're talking about me distancing myself from the negativity then yes, I guess I am divided. I have no interest in arguing on a discussion board about how the guys don't care about their fans or if they're doing Creed just for the money... it's ridiculous & immature. I'll always do my best to defend the band though, especially to people (so called "fans") who don't have a clue. I try at least.

Sometimes I wonder why I even post here... it's one gripe after the other & then it leads to attacks which I don't have time for. Opinions are fine but it's obvious that some people can't express themselves in a constructive manner. So with all due respect I'm really considering leaving for awhile... which I'm sure no one cares but I'd rather be a part of a community who is on the same "team" like you say instead of nitpicking everything the band does & taking jabs at family members and friends. so as long as we insult in a constructive manor , its ok, i agree DK i needs some Lucas Theme, Music From John W. around the time :D The Vader was over seeing the construction on the death star, :roll: i asure you in my own werid way, we our doubling Effords To Make Sure Everybody Is Pushing Toward To That Same Goal, it just feels far from, I do Believe Sir you are much needed here with us and it would be a great loss to not have ya with us, through out this season and my friend i tell ya another good theroy of mine, they say one must have to give love to get love in return i for one dont agree when we acknowlege a chosen few our without love, and does not have time for the non stop countinuing of its human a nature emotions Tina Sung It Best, We Acknowlege That We Must Love When We Our Not Loved It In Return And Its A Burning Desire to do just that in these days, dont be decived by the false hope stick to the marrow that will stick with you, and do not join those who divide themeselves, CREED :) i always have and i always will respect the band for being kings of the south wind, however none of can help stapps perculiar behavior through the years, sometimes you reach that place when your looking at one person and thats you and you alone, this have been swiftly moving years for young guy i believe he will mature, with a firm upper hand, in a wilderness state, as for myself AND THE AB NATION, im true to my own and will not depart nor will i turn, DK, i do hope you feel the same, crticism hatred mixed crticism i,ll bring that up, is something we all must take in daily and rightly DIVIED, through it, Like The Soildgers we are we day soon my friend, we will find out where i preseverance our going, from The Bands To The Bible In This Holy Wars, Peace Be With You In Jesus Name DK, i cant change your decisions but my final IS and for the rest to thats getting bright ideas, Do Stay, .........:rockon: the crooked made smooth,

Odetolife
11-28-2010, 08:26 PM
Jered is right, i feel like i joined this forum at a bad time... there is always constant arguing and people pick at each other alot on here, i mean a little here and there is ok but this is a limit, no matter what.. mark, myles, flip and brian, stapp and erock have my support on whatever musical projects they do.. they are constantly busting ass to please fans and people get all bent out of shape just because they are releasing a live vid? get over it, at least they are willing to record a video and constantly tour and show love to the fans. god bless these guys and all the music they put out.

Buried And Gone
11-28-2010, 10:02 PM
I feel that having spent hundreds of dollars on the band that I am owed something. I've bought everything I could find that has the name Mark Tremonti or Scott Stapp on it. That said, I'm not attacking the band members. Just this Dan guy. He gave a nonsense response. You are a huge part of the community here. I like you and appreciate a lot of the work that you do for us. But we are people with opinions. If you don't like that, I'm sorry. You want people that are blind. I'm not deeply offended by anything the band does. They are just a band. But I feel like the guys need to step their game up. If you don't like that. Tough.

I'm stating my opinion as to how the band can better themselves. If your love for AB makes you think that everything they do is amazing. Then I'm sorry. But I'm just saying how I think they can make it better for their fans, thus making it better for themselves. You worship these guys too much IMO.

nagpo
11-28-2010, 10:23 PM
Jered is right, i feel like i joined this forum at a bad time... there is always constant arguing and people pick at each other alot on here,
It has always been like this.

Dark_Knight
11-28-2010, 11:39 PM
You're missing the point... having an opinion & throwing insults at the band & those who know them are 2 completely different things. Like I said If you can't express yourself in a constructive manner what's the point?... it's almost as if you think complaining helps the band and the discussion - which it doesn't & that's all I was trying to say. Trust me I've been through the same things with ABB/TABN & thankfully we've made an effort to change things for the better for fans. As far as "worshiping" a band, I have no interest in that & I never will... they're all normal people like we are & I think it's stupid to put a band above everything else and pretend like their Gods. I'm just a big fan of their work & admire their talent... needless to say they've helped me through some tough times.

Lastly I guess if it's always going to be this way, I want no part in helping CreedFeed anymore. I'm glad you appreciated my help but quite frankly I'm tired of serving a lost cause unless things can stay positive around here. I'll admit I was never around much back in the day but I thought this was a pretty cool place to discuss Creed and all of their projects without getting jumped on. My suggestion is to 'clean up' a bit or at least think before you type from now on... you'll have a better environment for fans to discuss things without turning threads into flame wars. Also I don't want to take anything away from Steve... I've heard a lot of great things about you man! I wish you the best in keeping this site alive & well.

If any of you guys want to get in touch, you can always jump over on TABN or PBF & shoot me a pm.

-Jared

nagpo
11-28-2010, 11:50 PM
If this site were to get better by your standards, we'd have to get active mods and enforce stricter rules. This seems unlikely. I don't know the last time I saw Steve, or any news about the site updates.

nagpo
11-29-2010, 12:12 AM
Also, DK, I don't think everyone here "attacks" that much. This is one of those issues where we, the fans felt insulted by someone who knows the band and we merely attacked back.

I agree their are some users on here that need to be...taught a lesson on how to post constructively. But most of the time people generally get along.

However, I think you are little bit too sensitive when it comes to what people say about Alter Bridge. This forum is full of critics, and if you cant take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I mean no disrespect of course.

But like I've said before, there is a line between criticizing and trolling, and that is often crossed here. The problem is nobody is ever punished or moderated for doing something wrong. This is because we don't have a strong force of mods to enforce the rules.

A good example of trolling in this thread would be Inspireds post at the top of this page. But for the most part, all of the posts here were fair critisizms.

Buried And Gone
11-29-2010, 01:24 AM
I still fail to understand how I've insulted the band. You seem to be too negative. You don't talk about how much guys like me have praised Creed and the abilities of the guys. I'm aloud to have negative opinions and I'm aloud to say them. If you want everybody here to get along and start holding hands and singing "one" together then I feel like you're living in a pipe dream. It's an Internet forum. Dissagreements and arguments happen dude.

Chill out a little bro.

nagpo
11-29-2010, 01:43 AM
Who are you talking to?

TrulyAmazing
11-29-2010, 10:52 AM
You're missing the point... having an opinion & throwing insults at the band & those who know them are 2 completely different things. Like I said If you can't express yourself in a constructive manner what's the point?... it's almost as if you think complaining helps the band and the discussion - which it doesn't & that's all I was trying to say. Trust me I've been through the same things with ABB/TABN & thankfully we've made an effort to change things for the better for fans. As far as "worshiping" a band, I have no interest in that & I never will... they're all normal people like we are & I think it's stupid to put a band above everything else and pretend like their Gods. I'm just a big fan of their work & admire their talent... needless to say they've helped me through some tough times.

Lastly I guess if it's always going to be this way, I want no part in helping CreedFeed anymore. I'm glad you appreciated my help but quite frankly I'm tired of serving a lost cause unless things can stay positive around here. I'll admit I was never around much back in the day but I thought this was a pretty cool place to discuss Creed and all of their projects without getting jumped on. My suggestion is to 'clean up' a bit or at least think before you type from now on... you'll have a better environment for fans to discuss things without turning threads into flame wars. Also I don't want to take anything away from Steve... I've heard a lot of great things about you man! I wish you the best in keeping this site alive & well.

If any of you guys want to get in touch, you can always jump over on TABN or PBF & shoot me a pm.

-Jared I Can See Sir, Where Your Standars Are And Where You Choose You Feel You Need To Be Im Going Say At This Time, You,ve Mad It Obvious And Clear, With No Need Of A Further Explanation, Your One Of Us And I,d Hate To Loose You Sir, But Of Course Im Sure You,ve Felt As You,ve Made The Best Choice For Yourselve, I Will Miss You A Great Deal And I Wish You The Best, BLESSINGS AND STRENGETH AND PEACE BE WITH YOU IN JESUS NAME,

Buried And Gone
11-29-2010, 10:59 AM
Who are you talking to?
Lol. I ment to quote jarred. I'm on my iPod so typing and quoting and all can be difficult at times.

TrulyAmazing
11-29-2010, 11:24 AM
I still fail to understand how I've insulted the band. You seem to be too negative. You don't talk about how much guys like me have praised Creed and the abilities of the guys. I'm aloud to have negative opinions and I'm aloud to say them. If you want everybody here to get along and start holding hands and singing "one" together then I feel like you're living in a pipe dream. It's an Internet forum. Dissagreements and arguments happen dude.

Chill out a little bro. I know a good old fashion arguemeant and opinon aint nothing wrong with that, personaly Burried And Gone i dont think a hard way could be made any easy nor smoother for that matter , some however wish to disfigure, till theirs nothing left but their praise, And when confusing comes in, know it be not good when saftey is there, and what i, Do brother There Is No Being Moved From Truth, With The Sites Majortity they dont seem to get that and dont realize that ya loved theme and showing theme things for their own good and well being because they swallowed the sugar and itching ears and now dwells with the angery wife , I love My Friends Here They Are My Family, And i dont like too SEE Any Of,em Troubled By B)&)&&(S)*)*)IT So To Speak The Foundation Of This Forum The Word Of God Is Feeling Freely CREED Was The South Wind He Gathered The NorthThe South And Thye West And The East And Made It POSSBILE For Those To Get Their Meat In Due Season Some Dont Know How To Keep That Conversation Or About Music And Song And Song And Peace, Thats Why We Are All Hear No I Dont Like To Argue And No I Dont Like To Fight, It Was This Issues I Was Fighting When I Discovered Creeds Music In The First, Some Does Not Understand The Crest Or How They Abuse It, In One Of My Lyrics I Wrote Lord Im Going To i dont have a friend left in this world but i,am, busy
The DEAD CAN LEAD And The Blind Cant Lead The Blind Does Godforsake No He Has Ingraved Theme In The Palm Of His Hand, If You See The Shape The Countrys In You See The Debates In This Forum , And Im Not Every Yelling At Any Of My Friends, If i ever Its To Get A Point Acrossed I loved Theme And Its Only One OPPOSINGS FORCES Fault, I Feel For All Of My Friends Being The Bait For The Slaughter Of Filth Ad The Un Godly, Who Is Dead And Gone Anyway Many My Friends Dont Understand The Old Letters Burn And The Great Divide Is Over But We Do A Fill A Sting Of transitions, PEACE BE with US IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME blessings and strengeth in all things, As Justice Is Showing Signs Of The Better, Like a cut or a bite it normally gets worse before the better, The Word Says BLESSED ARE YOU If You Are Able To Stand Like The Word Says Some Will Get Itching Ears, ..............:rockon: i do wish to CLARIFY myself to the best of my abiltiy....and manily to those who needs things clarified, ROCK ON, Sincerly Truly Amazing .....:rockon:

TrulyAmazing
11-29-2010, 11:35 AM
Lol. I ment to quote jarred. I'm on my iPod so typing and quoting and all can be difficult at times.
My Jesus My Jesus, :roll: lets all just try to focus on music and the deeper structure spirtually thereof, and bear each other in love the way he bears us, it really makes no damn diffrence if you wish to discuss one of those blow up chicks, you slept with when u were drunk, :hugs: :hugs: because, Truly Loves Ya,s So U guys Are The Best.....:rockon: ....

Buried And Gone
11-29-2010, 02:14 PM
I know a good old fashion arguemeant and opinon aint nothing wrong with that, personaly Burried And Gone i dont think a hard way could be made any easy nor smoother for that matter , some however wish to disfigure, till theirs nothing left but their praise, And when confusing comes in, know it be not good when saftey is there, and what i, Do brother There Is No Being Moved From Truth, With The Sites Majortity they dont seem to get that and dont realize that ya loved theme and showing theme things for their own good and well being because they swallowed the sugar and itching ears and now dwells with the angery wife , I love My Friends Here They Are My Family, And i dont like too SEE Any Of,em Troubled By B)&)&&(S)*)*)IT So To Speak The Foundation Of This Forum The Word Of God Is Feeling Freely CREED Was The South Wind He Gathered The NorthThe South And Thye West And The East And Made It POSSBILE For Those To Get Their Meat In Due Season Some Dont Know How To Keep That Conversation Or About Music And Song And Song And Peace, Thats Why We Are All Hear No I Dont Like To Argue And No I Dont Like To Fight, It Was This Issues I Was Fighting When I Discovered Creeds Music In The First, Some Does Not Understand The Crest Or How They Abuse It, In One Of My Lyrics I Wrote Lord Im Going To i dont have a friend left in this world but i,am, busy
The DEAD CAN LEAD And The Blind Cant Lead The Blind Does Godforsake No He Has Ingraved Theme In The Palm Of His Hand, If You See The Shape The Countrys In You See The Debates In This Forum , And Im Not Every Yelling At Any Of My Friends, If i ever Its To Get A Point Acrossed I loved Theme And Its Only One OPPOSINGS FORCES Fault, I Feel For All Of My Friends Being The Bait For The Slaughter Of Filth Ad The Un Godly, Who Is Dead And Gone Anyway Many My Friends Dont Understand The Old
Letters Burn And The Great Divide Is Over But We Do A Fill A Sting Of transitions, PEACE BE with US IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME blessings and strengeth in all things, As Justice Is Showing Signs Of The Better, Like a cut or a bite it normally gets worse before the better, The Word Says BLESSED ARE YOU If You Are Able To Stand Like The Word Says Some Will Get Itching Ears, ..............:rockon: i do wish to CLARIFY myself to the best of my abiltiy....and manily to those who needs things clarified, ROCK ON, Sincerly Truly Amazing .....:rockon:

Wat.

rabidgopher04
12-01-2010, 07:56 AM
I happen to like the preview video. The rest of you guys need to chill. Agree to disagree.

TrulyAmazing
12-01-2010, 12:19 PM
I happen to like the preview video. The rest of you guys need to chill. Agree to disagree.
:hugs: yes indeed :) i agree with you 100 percent and could, not agree with you more, we are all friends here, some need to lead or follow or get out the way, we are seeing hard poiltical times and spitrual warfares my friend to since never was a nation, i dont feel taboo to speak about theme, nor run and hide from theme, but try to help my friends out, through theme as the will proceed, with transitions, i feel free LIKE SPIRT IN THE SKY POSTED, We Discuss all topics here including creed and Alterbridge And Music im a giver not a RECIVER, like up dates on the bands, they are the reason why were here and have made so many friends through the years, that should be smooth and easy the same as it always has been i dont see a probleam, my friend, if the guys wish to brawl every now then i dont mind or get in a twitch about it, as cruel tides to maketh you not to greet everyone with a smile, these days, PEACE BE WITH US AGAIN IN JESUS NAME BLESSINGS AND STRENGETH Personal Jesus Jesus Christ Poses, Nobody Wants To Be Hung In There, And The Will Of GOD Was Not To Leave None Hang On Tree Most Of Us Here Is Keepers Of The Peace Musicians Writers Creed And AB Fans, :) Of A Older Day And Of A Deeper Tide And Movemant Thats Rising Today, thats why we have pm boxes, if we wish to discuss or argure, or drop one a line, My Effford And Goal Is To Keep It That Way, And To Stand BEHIND THE ENTIRLEY TRIOLGEY OF THE CREST, ..........so lets all try to stay on topic, of thy first love which for most of us Was ROCK N ROLL, A Big God Bless Ya My Friend, :hugs: :hugs: i have issuies concering my family that are all part of the same rock and i dont like,em to be hontest i dont hate,em but i dislike theme, the same today as it was yesterday always and forever, which not would pertain to any of you,s that have passed through that tied, till the appointed time they dont understand but will in time, thats why we are heading toward THE APPEAL For ENDURANCE, a good majortiy not including my loved ones here solomn and gonmoraha is easier to endure, and some wont by pass the prophecy Of Jona, my friend Till He that cometh In the name of the Lord, Now That Would,nt Be I NO Prophet Is Excepted In His Or Her Own Country But Be A stranger, Again That Would,nt Apply To My Friends Here, So I Try To Get The Bibicle Porportions Down To The Appointed Time I give My Friends Rest As The Example Of My King, Now A Lot Be Dealing With Issuies There, Again I Cant Help It, Like All Of Us That As One, Im Bold When Comes To Un NEEDED Hurt To My Friends, Due To The Fact Of The Same Similar War we Seen By Dr Martin Luther King We Soon Realised How Stupid It Was To See That Poor Black Lady Shot Down Or Way Home That Day From Getting Groceries To Feed Her Young, You see that same Reflection Today Of That War, In A Massive Uncalled For Slaughter, And Today My Friends We Stand In Those Days When HE WOULD WIPE ALL TEARS From Their Eyes,

nagpo
12-07-2010, 10:03 PM
What I don't understand about DK is, he runs away to ABB, where he's a mod, but those forums are MUCH shittier than ours. Everyone their is always an asshole to each other.

Buried And Gone
12-08-2010, 05:16 PM
He dislikes people that have an oposing opinion. Talk badly about something one of the AB guys did, god, the music and he gets really offended and defensive. He treats these guys like deitys but they are normal people like you and me. People like that irritate the he'll out of me. They only like you if you agree with them about everything.

TrulyAmazing
12-08-2010, 08:13 PM
He dislikes people that have an oposing opinion. Talk badly about something one of the AB guys did, god, the music and he gets really offended and defensive. He treats these guys like deitys but they are normal people like you and me. People like that irritate the he'll out of me. They only like you if you agree with them about everything.
keep it cool as iceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey and i,ll buy ya,a ICEY the ones wit dee polo bear, :) :boxing: whatch the kidney bunches i dont want have to break it up, :offtopic: :shoot: PEACE BE STILL, IN JESUS NAME, :hugs:

Dark_Knight
12-14-2010, 03:53 AM
He dislikes people that have an oposing opinion. Talk badly about something one of the AB guys did, god, the music and he gets really offended and defensive. He treats these guys like deitys but they are normal people like you and me. People like that irritate the he'll out of me. They only like you if you agree with them about everything.
1. I put up with different opinions everyday... it's nothing new to me & I could care less what other people think about each band. If I only cared about people agreeing with me I would be long gone from every forum by now haha Each fan has the right to express what they feel BUT only if it's at least in bounds and a bit fair to the discussion (not to mention the rules). You can't have someone screaming every post or insulting other members, it can get out of hand. My only gripe was... don't personally insult the band, their families or friends. It's not like they can take up for themselves here.

2. You might of missed my post about how I respect the guys as musicians & look up to them as people but I don't however worship them as Gods - they're not in any way, shape or form. Bottom line, they're just my favorite band - trust me I've met some crazies, I'm not one of them lol

nagpo
12-14-2010, 08:28 AM
Congrats on the 1,000 posts, dk.

TrulyAmazing
12-21-2010, 02:23 PM
1. I put up with different opinions everyday... it's nothing new to me & I could care less what other people think about each band. If I only cared about people agreeing with me I would be long gone from every forum by now haha Each fan has the right to express what they feel BUT only if it's at least in bounds and a bit fair to the discussion (not to mention the rules). You can't have someone screaming every post or insulting other members, it can get out of hand. My only gripe was... don't personally insult the band, their families or friends. It's not like they can take up for themselves here.

2. You might of missed my post about how I respect the guys as musicians & look up to them as people but I don't however worship them as Gods - they're not in any way, shape or form. Bottom line, they're just my favorite band - trust me I've met some crazies, I'm not one of them lol its, a misconception friend to what a god really is coming from a gentile points of you , i would bring up the parable to the ANCITYS IN GODS KINGDOM, We Be No More Than The, Vessels , Friend I know Its Hard, i hate the stero type labels , larger than life, when we all our no more than the dust, GOD is the fuel Of all Works, everybody does their best jobs, and funny most need more help than we know, but the best help be in each other, it seems, :) thanks ya,alls for putting up with each other, And Truly........i always said there is enough insults outside our clubs fan sites and havens, we should leave all those things outside our doors, and maketh peace with each other, when we can, you do a great job DK.....