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WHATSTHISLIFE4
08-08-2009, 01:11 AM
CREED IS BACK!

BULLETS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpOXiTB_w

WHAT IF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGVBK3NHq-4

MY SACRIFICE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qD6ArnFGMA

Chris98GT
08-08-2009, 01:34 AM
Wow, his voice is completely shot.

Glad the tickets were only $25!

creedm1981
08-08-2009, 01:37 AM
we cant say its shot. me and my wife seen stapp around a year and a half ago and he was awesome live. it was the concert in lemoore. sometimes with audio and television you cant hear the true sound as you would live.

WHATSTHISLIFE4
08-08-2009, 03:18 AM
Watch the entire episode of Live & Loud featuring Creed

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPzR9vBoiVw

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVsac0HSk0

Alrock
08-08-2009, 03:53 AM
Part 1 contains a really long pointless interview, then intro and bullets

seems as though they have a second guitarist no idea who it is?

Part 2 contains What If, stupid intro from blonde lassie, Stapp Sacrifice intro, My Sacrifice

Not sure if VH1 filmed the whole show if so why the hell did the show it all?

setlist from the opening night was:

Ode
Bullets
My Own Prison
Say I
Torn
Never Die
What If
Unforgiven
What’s This Life For
Overcome
Are You Ready
Faceless Man
With Arms Wide Open
Higher

ENCORES-
One
One Last Breath
My Sacrifice

nagpo
08-08-2009, 03:58 AM
i got chills just by watching those videos.

Steve
08-08-2009, 08:38 AM
The second guitarist is Eric Friedman, who used to be in Submersed way back when. He is a friend of Mark and playing rhythm guitar on tour for the band.

XALTERBRIDGEX
08-08-2009, 01:04 PM
tremonti taking a couple swigs of his beer before he entered the stage..priceless..

TrulyAmazing
08-08-2009, 01:10 PM
thanks for that priceless info so rebel like

Alrock
08-08-2009, 05:29 PM
entire show audio, not bad considering it's not official, got it from the ABB forums;

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DEOK3YYR

the setlist on the night was:

Ode
Bullets
My Own Prison
Say I
Torn
Never
Die
What If
Unforgiven
What's The Life For
Overcome
Faceless Man
With Arms Wide Open
Higher
-Encore break
One
One Last Breath
My Sacrifice


songs on setlist from stage but not played Full Circle and Are You Ready apparently

WHATSTHISLIFE4
08-09-2009, 12:52 AM
XALTERBRIDGEX looked like water to me. I will take a look again.

Icedmofo
08-09-2009, 03:31 AM
Just another confirmation that the AOL videos were heavily edited, i could tell as soon as i heard them.

At least he's smart enough to not try to keep singing up where he used to.

I guaruntee that's the reason they are bringing eric along, tremonti can more than handle the guitar lead by himself, eric is there to help stapp with the vocals.

It's unfortunate, and not stapp's fault. He was made to sing through some really serious vocal conditions and never had the chance to take care of himself, and this is the result.

I'm sure the album will be great where his voice can be edited, but the power, range, and strength of his voice is just gone.

BSC
08-09-2009, 03:56 AM
What makes you think that? The first night? The first live creed concert in 7 years?

He's bound to be really nervous for the first few nights... I think we should be judging his voice in a week or so when the nerves have gone.

Icedmofo
08-09-2009, 02:23 PM
So you're saying that nerves are the reason that the top and bottom 1/4 of his range are completely gone and his voice is dramatically more baritone than it used to be?

I'm sorry, but that's now how voices work. Nervous he might crack, go sharp, go flat, whatever. You don't lose the entirety of your range, power, etc.

Stapp is a professional performer, he's been performing consistently since 1997, he's done big opening nights before, he's done woodstock.

Even, for the sake of argument, if he was incredibly nervous and his voice disappeared (which doesn't happen), with the experience he has he would settle into the show by the end, his voice only got worse.

I'm not knocking the band, i'm thrilled they are back together, but i will call a spade a spade.

I admire stapp for not trying to sing the way he used to and finding new ways to make it work, he'll last for the entire tour this way.

BSC
08-09-2009, 02:46 PM
So you're saying that nerves are the reason that the top and bottom 1/4 of his range are completely gone and his voice is dramatically more baritone than it used to be?

I'm sorry, but that's now how voices work. Nervous he might crack, go sharp, go flat, whatever. You don't lose the entirety of your range, power, etc.

Stapp is a professional performer, he's been performing consistently since 1997, he's done big opening nights before, he's done woodstock.

Even, for the sake of argument, if he was incredibly nervous and his voice disappeared (which doesn't happen), with the experience he has he would settle into the show by the end, his voice only got worse.

I'm not knocking the band, i'm thrilled they are back together, but i will call a spade a spade.

I admire stapp for not trying to sing the way he used to and finding new ways to make it work, he'll last for the entire tour this way.

I personally didn't think his vocals were that bad but you're entitled to your own opinions just like am I.

Chase
08-10-2009, 12:34 PM
You guys are nuts if you expect him to sound like he did when he was 26 years old.

Tremontiriffs77
08-11-2009, 12:20 AM
You guys are nuts if you expect him to sound like he did when he was 26 years old.
Funny Ive seen Aerosmith 3 times and Steven Tyler at 61 Still sounds as good as he did way back when...I thought Stapp sounded Great for VH1..IMO they rocked the house..Lets see how many bands out of the touring circuit for seven years perform..Most would fold under the pressure...I think haters and doubters will be exactly that...Respect will be paid..Rock...Creed...

BSC
08-11-2009, 04:11 AM
Funny Ive seen Aerosmith 3 times and Steven Tyler at 61 Still sounds as good as he did way back when...I thought Stapp sounded Great for VH1..IMO they rocked the house..Lets see how many bands out of the touring circuit for seven years perform..Most would fold under the pressure...I think haters and doubters will be exactly that...Respect will be paid..Rock...Creed...

Woohoo another Aerosmith fan! Yeah Steve Tyler sounds great... When he's not falling off stages :P

Sorry I know that wasn't funny.

I'm pretty concerned for Aerosmith atm, things aren't going well for them (illnesses, etc). I haven't had the opportunity to see them live yet, and I really want to.

Dark_Knight
08-11-2009, 05:10 AM
You guys are nuts if you expect him to sound like he did when he was 26 years old.
I understand what you mean...but if he would have taken proper care of his voice throughout the years he could sound like he did back in the day, that's the sad thing about it.

Tremontiriffs77
08-11-2009, 11:08 AM
Woohoo another Aerosmith fan! Yeah Steve Tyler sounds great... When he's not falling off stages :P

Sorry I know that wasn't funny.

I'm pretty concerned for Aerosmith atm, things aren't going well for them (illnesses, etc). I haven't had the opportunity to see them live yet, and I really want to.
-If u ever get the chance they are amazing!! They play every single hit..Three hours worth..Yes there tickets are pretty expensive but wortht he money..every bit!!

Chase
08-11-2009, 03:18 PM
Funny Ive seen Aerosmith 3 times and Steven Tyler at 61 Still sounds as good as he did way back when...I thought Stapp sounded Great for VH1..IMO they rocked the house..Lets see how many bands out of the touring circuit for seven years perform..Most would fold under the pressure...I think haters and doubters will be exactly that...Respect will be paid..Rock...Creed...

Yeah, he sounds great... but he he doesn't sound like he does on the studio recording of "Dream On."

Chase
08-11-2009, 03:22 PM
I understand what you mean...but if he would have taken proper care of his voice throughout the years he could sound like he did back in the day, that's the sad thing about it.

Of course he could've taken better care of it. However, he's not an opera singer. Like most rock stars, he lived through the ups and downs of rock and roll stardom. Many of rock's best vocalists didn't even live to be 36. In some respects, he's fortunate to still be singing in a band. If Kurt Cobain was still around, I can guarantee you that he wouldn't sound the same as he did in 1991.