Obama wins

[MissSeeker]

Wow, I'm so proud of America, Obama wins! Just shows that America is the
country of all possibilities and dreams!

[metalchris25]

It also shows our idiocy.

[nagpo]

w00t!

[TrulyAmazing]

Dr King And WE WILL OVER COME :bounce: :bounce: i feel good about this in a few things

[eusebioCBR]

It looks like alot of Americans want to try socialism. I've spoken to quite a few people that voted for him and they all think he's going to give them money.
He's promised everyone the moon and the stars. I can't wait to see it all come true.:rolleyes:

[RalphyS]

It also shows our idiocy.

On the contrary, it show that even the US can make a wise choice, when the situation is finally shitty enough: Nation Finally Shitty Enough To Make Social Progress (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nation_finally_shitty_enough_to)

And I know this is supposed to be a sarcastic look at things, but just a little reminder, how accurate sarcasm/humor can be, a little prediction from the same site in 2001: Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over' (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784)

[JulieCitySlicker]

We'll see what he does but I'm not holding my breath. My prediction is that instead of 'spreading the wealth', he will spread the taxes.

[RalphyS]

Yesterday, I heard an Afro-American on TV say something really beautiful:

Rosa sat, so Martin could walk, Martin walked, so Obama could run, Obama ran, so our children can fly :)

[JulieCitySlicker]

I'm all for an african american president but we will see who is flying once the next 4 years are over:) I really hope that Obama does some good during his presidency. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt even though I supported Mc Cain. Who knows, maybe he will ease my doubts in the end. I am just not fond of the fact that he supports abortion.

[eusebioCBR]

I'm all for an african american president but we will see who is flying once the next 4 years are over:) I really hope that Obama does some good during his presidency. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt even though I supported Mc Cain. Who knows, maybe he will ease my doubts in the end. I am just not fond of the fact that he supports abortion.

Not just abortion, he voted several times against a bill that would have protected the life of a baby that survives an abortion. At the time of the vote he said protecting the life would not be "the original intent" and now he says "their was no language in the bill that would protect the life of the mother".:wtf:How many newborn babies once seperated from the mother are a threat to mother? He also refuses to give a definate answer on his belief of when life begins. He is one cold dude.

[JulieCitySlicker]

^That sucks:wtf: Abortion is an issue that I don't take lightly because I could have easily been aborted. I was 10 weeks premature and the docs said that I would have alot of things wrong with me, if I lived. They didn't even think I would have survived but I was fine. So I'm glad that things worked out the way they did.

[metalchris25]

Yesterday, I heard an Afro-American on TV say something really beautiful:

Rosa sat, so Martin could walk, Martin walked, so Obama could run, Obama ran, so our children can fly :)
That is a load of crap. Black americans have the same opportunities as everyone else. He just has African-American heritage. That whole "african-american" tag is stupid. You are either American, or nothing.

[TrulyAmazing]

Not just abortion, he voted several times against a bill that would have protected the life of a baby that survives an abortion. At the time of the vote he said protecting the life would not be "the original intent" and now he says "their was no language in the bill that would protect the life of the mother".:wtf:How many newborn babies once seperated from the mother are a threat to mother? He also refuses to give a definate answer on his belief of when life begins. He is one cold dude. Please Let me put in my :2cents: :cool: just checking if i look smart in stuff i need one of those jackets like hillary wears:D there is 2 ways of looking at abortion number 1 if i was a politicion WHICH PRAISE GOD IM NOT you wanna stop abortion the teen pregeancy rate needs to decrease BECOMING A PARENT IS IN FACT A RESPONSEBILTIY OF AN ADULT A minor cant drive to thier 16 or vote till their 18 Or drink till their 21 or smoke till 18 simple enough Heres My opion IF HE TEEN BECOMES PREGEANT UNDER THE AGE OF 18 their right as a parent should be taken and more coulples that are wanting kids who are secure to take care of theme some go through all these Elegal adoptions more could be done if more people got together to put together bigger adoptions agency for parents who cant have their own children Any any minor under age should be the law to put their baby up for adoption they may in fact increase teen pregnacy And you can look at abortion as murder or womens rights Im Not Pro Life Or neither An I For A fetis Getting Ripped Out Of Its Mother Wound GOD IS THE CREATOR OF LIFE and forsees the future of all life IF LIFE IS MEANT TO BE HE WILL GIVE IT IF IT NOT HE WILL TAKE IT AWAY but as same as gay Marragies These 2 things will always be the never ending conversation and if we did,nt have Elegal abortion in the Usa it will still be Elegaly and that would be a scary thought on womens body Im Thinking Dr Giggles i know it my julie girl you precious :hugs: :hugs: you was just meant to be Know Mean Old Doctor Got Baby Julie Im done now guys all ready For HardBall and your open arguments:p sssssssssssss

[TrulyAmazing]

That is a load of crap. Black americans have the same opportunities as everyone else. He just has African-American heritage. That whole "african-american" tag is stupid. You are either American, or nothing.
Brother thats true in certian areas Same Rights Indeed But Still You would be surprised THAT RACSIM IS STILL ISSUIE if your white you will always see the black if your black you we always see the white because you know the white they always seeing you as black thats the way we see it everybody as equals but a lot of closed narrow mind folk still dont see it that way Bub

[eusebioCBR]

Brother thats true in certian areas Same Rights Indeed But Still You would be surprised THAT RACSIM IS STILL ISSUIE if your white you will always see the black if your black you we always see the white because you know the white they always seeing you as black thats the way we see it everybody as equals but a lot of closed narrow mind folk still dont see it that way Bub


Four years from now everybody will be where they are or where they were already heading before he was elected.

[TrulyAmazing]

Four years from now everybody will be where they are or where they were already heading before he was elected.
there is a strong chance of that i see history made and the spirt of that change but i dont see that one big change that a lot our expecting from obama

[bilal]

.. you guys carry on your discussion.... and I don't have any reason to post in this thread ... and I am not in to news and politics... and ... baseball.. and all.... but do let me know if this guy.. obama... decides to bomb Pakistan.... cause if he does, then I better be prepared... :D you know, like build a bunker or something..... may be learn kung fu.... or start watching news then ....

[JulieCitySlicker]

.. you guys carry on your discussion.... and I don't have any reason to post in this thread ... and I am not in to news and politics... and ... baseball.. and all.... but do let me know if this guy.. obama... decides to bomb Pakistan.... cause if he does, then I better be prepared... :D you know, like build a bunker or something..... may be learn kung fu.... or start watching news then ....

Bilal, I highly recommend that you guys start watching the news for your own safety. Especially since that prick has already stated about attacking your country Better to be informed than not. I don't know why the crap he talked about it but I'm not at ease with him being president.

[Xterminator27]

Not just abortion, he voted several times against a bill that would have protected the life of a baby that survives an abortion. At the time of the vote he said protecting the life would not be "the original intent" and now he says "their was no language in the bill that would protect the life of the mother".:wtf:How many newborn babies once seperated from the mother are a threat to mother? He also refuses to give a definate answer on his belief of when life begins. He is one cold dude.

lol you are one of those people who see mccain ads saying obama is muslim and believe it.

He voted against the bill because there was already a practice that gave treatment to babies who survived abortion, thus the bill was useless. Obama's ideology is that something such as abortion is a very situational circumstance and that the people who are involved with the matter are the best to make their own judgments based on their own views, not something the government to enforce on them. Basically hes letting people have freedom of choice.

[eusebioCBR]

lol you are one of those people who see mccain ads saying obama is muslim and believe it.

He voted against the bill because there was already a practice that gave treatment to babies who survived abortion, thus the bill was useless. Obama's ideology is that something such as abortion is a very situational circumstance and that the people who are involved with the matter are the best to make their own judgments based on their own views, not something the government to enforce on them. Basically hes letting people have freedom of choice.

You are one of those people that hears "hope and change" and believes the fairy tale. Hey genius, I'm not a republican.
Wether or not the bill was "useless" he's made it clear to me with his own words how little he values life.
Most abortions in America are not the result of rape or insest. I agree it is up to the individual to make their own decision. Basically he's letting people have murder for covenience.
I am also entitled to voice my opinion and you're free to rear the government is going to force morality on you.

[TrulyAmazing]

.. you guys carry on your discussion.... and I don't have any reason to post in this thread ... and I am not in to news and politics... and ... baseball.. and all.... but do let me know if this guy.. obama... decides to bomb Pakistan.... cause if he does, then I better be prepared... :D you know, like build a bunker or something..... may be learn kung fu.... or start watching news then ....
i dont have a reason to post in this thread either everybody knows :mad1: when i get on roll here to pray :roll: :roll: i dont whatch the news either really dont have too brother i hope you dont get bombed either but do know my prayers our in your favor

[TrulyAmazing]

Bilal, I highly recommend that you guys start watching the news for your own safety. Especially since that prick has already stated about attacking your country Better to be informed than not. I don't know why the crap he talked about it but I'm not at ease with him being president.
thank you julie i know Bilal feel more and comfort from hearing from a friend rather on nightline julie you must not like obama b/c :D i,ve never heared that out of your mouth Not even At X :hugs: :hugs:

[Xterminator27]

You are one of those people that hears "hope and change" and believes the fairy tale. Hey genius, I'm not a republican.
Wether or not the bill was "useless" he's made it clear to me with his own words how little he values life.
Most abortions in America are not the result of rape or insest. I agree it is up to the individual to make their own decision. Basically he's letting people have murder for covenience.
I am also entitled to voice my opinion and you're free to rear the government is going to force morality on you.

I don't live in America nub I couldn't care less, I'm just bringing the facts.

[eusebioCBR]

I don't live in America nub I couldn't care less, I'm just bringing the facts.

One "fact" that supports your point. You're ignoring several statements he's made about abortion. His argument concerning the "useless" bill was that protecting the childs life was not the "original intent". His "mothers life" defence wasn't used until he had to defend those no votes.

[RalphyS]

To equate abortion to murder is the crap that I expect from Christian conservatives and Repugnants, not libertarians!

[eusebioCBR]

To equate abortion to murder is the crap that I expect from Christian conservatives and Repugnants, not libertarians!

That's some hostile judgementalism there Ralphy. It's hardly a display of the open minded and understanding thought process attributed to liberalism.
You're just as opinionated and closed minded as any concervative you lash out at. I frankly don't care what you think of me because your challenges and name calling reinforces my resolve.
I am a Christian and an abortion stops a beating heart.

[JulieCitySlicker]

thank you julie i know Bilal feel more and comfort from hearing from a friend rather on nightline julie you must not like obama b/c :D i,ve never heared that out of your mouth Not even At X :hugs: :hugs:

Now what gave you that idea:D Haha! Yeah, I'm not an Obama fan but whatever:rolleyes: I honestly think he is a giant douche;)

[TrulyAmazing]

Now what gave you that idea:D Haha! Yeah, I'm not an Obama fan but whatever:rolleyes: I honestly think he is a giant douche;)
:D so i take it your not one of those people julie that wants to spray loosers on whats left of the vote For McCain signs in peoples yards :D :laugh:

[metalchris25]

That's some hostile judgementalism there Ralphy. It's hardly a display of the open minded and understanding thought process attributed to liberalism.
You're just as opinionated and closed minded as any concervative you lash out at. I frankly don't care what you think of me because your challenges and name calling reinforces my resolve.
I am a Christian and an abortion stops a beating heart.
well said man.

[JulieCitySlicker]

:D so i take it your not one of those people julie that wants to spray loosers on whats left of the vote For McCain signs in peoples yards :D :laugh:


Nope,lol.

[Dogstar]

Just a little reminder: Debating and disagreeing are fine; name-calling is not, so let's keep it civil, folks. Thank you and have a pleasant day.

[Chase]

I thought I should chime in and voice my opinion of the election Jesus Martin Luther King Obama. While it's incredible to see a man who is HALF black ascend to the Presidency, the way in which he got elected is hilarious. Campaigning on an ambiguous word, "change," swooned the American people and the world. Nobody challenges this guy. The media never did and hasn't yet and as a result, many Americans blindly follow him. He hasn't served a full term as Senator. In fact, in the 3 years he has been a Senator, he has ran for President 2 of those years.

This guy was a lawyer and is now a politician. He used his state as a stepping stone to become the most powerful man in the world. If he can't even fulfill his obligation to his state, why should I believe he is going to "change" America?

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

[JulieCitySlicker]

^Exactly Chase:thankyou:

[RalphyS]

That's some hostile judgementalism there Ralphy. It's hardly a display of the open minded and understanding thought process attributed to liberalism.
You're just as opinionated and closed minded as any concervative you lash out at. I frankly don't care what you think of me because your challenges and name calling reinforces my resolve.

If not equating abortion to murder is closed minded, yes, then I qualify, and no one will ever persuade me otherwise.

If calling republicans repugnants is what you equate to name calling, I don't get it, I thought you weren't a republican?

I am a Christian and an abortion stops a beating heart.

Well I'm an atheist, and a butcher killing a cow also stops a beating heart, which is more of a life than that of an embryo.

[RalphyS]

I thought I should chime in and voice my opinion of the election Jesus Martin Luther King Obama. While it's incredible to see a man who is HALF black ascend to the Presidency, the way in which he got elected is hilarious. Campaigning on an ambiguous word, "change," swooned the American people and the world. Nobody challenges this guy. The media never did and hasn't yet and as a result, many Americans blindly follow him. He hasn't served a full term as Senator. In fact, in the 3 years he has been a Senator, he has ran for President 2 of those years.

This guy was a lawyer and is now a politician. He used his state as a stepping stone to become the most powerful man in the world. If he can't even fulfill his obligation to his state, why should I believe he is going to "change" America?

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

Believe me, there is going to be change to the last 8 years !!!

[eusebioCBR]

If not equating abortion to murder is closed minded, yes, then I qualify, and no one will ever persuade me otherwise.

If calling republicans repugnants is what you equate to name calling, I don't get it, I thought you weren't a republican?



Well I'm an atheist, and a butcher killing a cow also stops a beating heart, which is more of a life than that of an embryo.

I'm well aware of your value system. What I don't understand is what makes you think I want to keep hearing about it.

[Ana4Stapp]

Well..I was reading it and id like to say that Obama's election doesnt make me much confident in "changes"...I think theres too much MEDIA involved in it...selling 'hes black...and young' ....anway lets see...

[eusebioCBR]

Well..I was reading it and id like to say that Obama's election doesnt make me much confident in "changes"...I think theres too much MEDIA involved in it...selling 'hes black...and young' ....anway lets see...

I agree. It looks more like a third Clinton administration.

[RalphyS]

Well that would be a lot of 'change' compared to the Dubya-administration!!!

[Chase]

Well that would be a lot of 'change' compared to the Dubya-administration!!!

Really? President Clinton bombed Baghdad, sent troops to Somalia, and allowed a lot terrorist attacks to go unanswered. Most notable was the U.S.S. Cole bombing. I see some similarities between Clinton and Bush.

[Sakizopa]

My question is about the union. What is united in the states of america, and what is united against america, and what is the curse of ununited folks against others culture innerlands than outers?

WHY DO YOU HATE OTHERS STATE MORE THAN YOUR OWN PARTY?

WHY DON´T HATE YOURSELF AND BOMB EACH OTHER AWAY?

Well, let us discuss the first question. America is not free in its fee to bomb others life away, while others think it is a fee for destiny to hate each other in your union. Unions life should be freedom, and not war against each others culture. When politics making war from the basement of what is called „United“, America will not contain the hope of its reputation by being „United“. The question is about the meaning of being united with the states of America or not. When war is between each culture against another innerlands, America cannot be united and bringing democracy to the outercontinental world.

The second question is a http://www.killingjoke.com ?
:smokin:

[eusebioCBR]

My question is about the union. What is united in the states of america, and what is united against america, and what is the curse of ununited folks against others culture innerlands than outers?

WHY DO YOU HATE OTHERS STATE MORE THAN YOUR OWN PARTY?

WHY DON´T HATE YOURSELF AND BOMB EACH OTHER AWAY?

Well, let us discuss the first question. America is not free in its fee to bomb others life away, while others think it is a fee for destiny to hate each other in your union. Unions life should be freedom, and not war against each others culture. When politics making war from the basement of what is called „United“, America will not contain the hope of its reputation by being „United“. The question is about the meaning of being united with the states of America or not. When war is between each culture against another innerlands, America cannot be united and bringing democracy to the outercontinental world.

The second question is a http://www.killingjoke.com ?
:smokin:

Okay, blame America for everything. That's not original or constructive. What exactly is your detailed solution that will bring about a conflict free world?

[metalchris25]

My question is about the union. What is united in the states of america, and what is united against america, and what is the curse of ununited folks against others culture innerlands than outers?

WHY DO YOU HATE OTHERS STATE MORE THAN YOUR OWN PARTY?

WHY DON´T HATE YOURSELF AND BOMB EACH OTHER AWAY?

Well, let us discuss the first question. America is not free in its fee to bomb others life away, while others think it is a fee for destiny to hate each other in your union. Unions life should be freedom, and not war against each others culture. When politics making war from the basement of what is called „United“, America will not contain the hope of its reputation by being „United“. The question is about the meaning of being united with the states of America or not. When war is between each culture against another innerlands, America cannot be united and bringing democracy to the outercontinental world.

The second question is a http://www.killingjoke.com ?
:smokin:
Wow, this is quite possibly the most ignorant statement anyone could make. Who the heck is at war with each other in the States? No one that I know of. If you are talkin about racism, it's here, but it's also where you live. But, the people here are good people overall. You let someone try to bomb or invade us, I guarantee that every one of the races, faiths, and creeds in this country will rise up and fight as one just as we always have. It's easy to look in from the outside, and judge. Your country probably only has a few different ethnic groups, and therefore it's easy to dictate policy and get along. We have a melting pot of people and their practices here. It's inherently harder to make everyone happy. As far as us bombin people, you should thank us for doin a job no other country wanted yet still needed done.

[Sakizopa]

Okay this is all I wanted to read. Wow!
Thank you!

Love you for this!
:peacelove

I just wanted to know what you think, and I learned from the opinions of yours. I am not the http://www.jungewelt.de/ , and I don´t like them. This was my intention, and I agree to yours, but I had to write it from the special europian sight of view. When I just would have my own special kind of view, which is never a purpose but an inner conflict of each other around the world, I learn for those who never learn.
The middle-class german lefties like "Junge Welt" in a comparative peaceful Germany are bitches, it is their easy way of antiamericanism and antiisraelism.

I do not stand up for "my folk", I do stand up for the holiness in life around the world.

Concerning Barack Obama, he is the more intelligent president beside John Fitzgerald Kennedy but unifying all americans to become a member of what is called to be united with the states of America. This is not socialism than leading the idea of what states in America should be in the world when they named by themself being UNITED in each folk IN america!

Thank you for your respondings, helped me in any case.
Okay!

And well but puzzling me
Is just a nature of my game
huhuu... huhuu...

[TrulyAmazing]

pretty little Owl they are precious creatures :) nobody likes Obama they either fear him or hate him and brother since he was voted in as president i for one am sick of hearing all the hate toward the man Old Tradtion theorys Damn the man is just trying to do his job i dont see change from him no but if anybody is going to start a change for us Obama has started to pave that way :)

[eusebioCBR]

"Change"? What EXACTLY are the DETAILS of this great "change"? He is not qualified to do the damn job. Fortunately for Obama he has the liberal ass kissing major media to cover for him.

[JulieCitySlicker]

I think the only change we are going to get with Obama is higher taxes. He has already pretty much told the nation to hold on to their ass right after they elected him into office, not before. Why the heck did he need almost $2 million dollars just for the inauguration party today, and who do you think is going to pay for that? Us! Just like we will be forced to pay for the bailout that the banks just had to have, and for their $450 thousand dollar party they threw after they got bailed out, and for the next $800 billion that Obama wants passed as well. I don't see anything being lowered tax wise with all of these high priced expenses being handed out.

[eusebioCBR]

As they keep printing money and spending it the American dollar gets weaker and weaker.:(
It's so unfortunate that enviromentalism keeps us from accessing our own natural resources that would create profitable industry and employ millions. Instead we have to "hope" his plans for an "alternative" energy industry will "change" our struggling constitutional republic into his socialist utopia.:mad1:

[Ana4Stapp]

just curious: no one is PRO OBAMA here???

[eusebioCBR]

just curious: no one is PRO OBAMA here???

There are some. I'm PRO AMERICA.

[Sakizopa]

I think the only change we are going to get with Obama is higher taxes. ...
Or becoming bigger in Texas.
The world is bigger than one color. All colors living in stars and stripes, therefore economy has to be for all colors in stars and stripes.
:D

[metalchris25]

There are some. I'm PRO AMERICA.
Same here. He is my pres, so I will stand behind him, but I think we have made a big mistake electing him.

[Sakizopa]

I think living in Texas without higher taxes is good for people who like to keep their easy life without any responsibility for themselves and other people, against the economy in righteousness FOR each ones´ folk and responsibility for each ones´ etiquette!
The inner social problems between each folk in America is put in chains, and chains working against the etiquette of what shall be called „United“.

I think having problems with higher taxes is a middle-class thinking of people who are in love with themselves; who do not like to work for the United States of America; who do not like to share with other folks in the United States of America.

Do you love me?
:mad1:
[on the other hand: i love my funny statements!]
:eek:

Sakizopa "has spoken in class today"
Yours
Unleased Lion [*18.8.1964]

[eusebioCBR]

^Yes there are Americans that would rather live self reliant lives and there are those who would prefer the state provide for them.
There are ALWAYS government programs in place for the disabled and just because my countrys assistance to them doesn't appear to be enough to an outsider doesn't convince me of "nobility" of working for "big brother or the state".
Why don't you ask those Canadians that cross the border to see an American Doctor instead of waiting in line for months to recieve treatment from their system of socialized medicine.
Americans like me don't want European style socialism. Have you socialists ever considered that you are feeding your own ego with your lofty ideal of selflessness.

[Sakizopa]

^
Americans like me don't want European style socialism. Have you socialists ever considered that you are feeding your own ego with your lofty ideal of selflessness.

That´s it! The style of socialism feeds the ego of selflessness [as JESUS did?]!
However, a smashing argumentation in which i fly too.

Everyone is worried about taxes, and not about the responsibility as becoming a worthful person in the United States of America. When you don´t like taxes, love yourself.
When a republican would have won the run, you would be angry about taxes as well.
„So comeon! I´m talking to you“ [“Shout“; as well as to me. Should´nt have to sell my soul and so on].

Let me say you this: i am not a friend of socialism since his antiisraelism from the east-germany, putting each person against an antiamericanism and antiisraelism as well as the nazism did, thinking in socialism against another party is a crime as well.
Barack Obama is not a socialist in tradition to the european idea of it. He is a thinker, and a leader for the ideal being united with the States of America.
Canada is a part of the United States, so it is up to the government to solve these problems by the airlines and transfers.

[eusebioCBR]

That´s it! The style of socialism feeds the ego of selflessness [as JESUS did?]!
However, a smashing argumentation in which i fly too.

Everyone is worried about taxes, and not about the responsibility as becoming a worthful person in the United States of America. When you don´t like taxes, love yourself.
When a republican would have won the run, you would be angry about taxes as well.
„So comeon! I´m talking to you“ [“Shout“; as well as to me. Should´nt have to sell my soul and so on].

Let me say you this: i am not a friend of socialism since his antiisraelism from the east-germany, putting each person against an antiamericanism and antiisraelism as well as the nazism did, thinking in socialism against another party is a crime as well.
Barack Obama is not a socialist in tradition to the european idea of it. He is a thinker, and a leader for the ideal being united with the States of America.
Canada is a part of the United States, so it is up to the government to solve these problems by the airlines and transfers.

I'm not worried about paying taxes because I AM AWARE OF MY PERSONAL RESPONSBILITIES AND COMMON SENCE DICTATES CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIETY MUST BE MET(this is obviuos!!!!!!!!). I am against corrupt politicians wasting/steeling tax dollars while fooling simple minded citizens into beleiving their best interests are being served when in fact political power and government expansion is the goal.:mad1:
Barack Obama is just like the rest of them from his corrupt cabinet appointees to his cluelessness on display when signing his own executive order "is this all there is to sign?"( I paraphrased)

[Sakizopa]

I'm not worried about paying taxes because I AM AWARE OF MY PERSONAL RESPONSBILITIES AND COMMON SENCE DICTATES CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIETY MUST BE MET(this is obviuos!!!!!!!!). I am against corrupt politicians wasting/steeling tax dollars while fooling simple minded citizens into beleiving their best interests are being served when in fact political power and government expansion is the goal.:mad1:
Barack Obama is just like the rest of them from his corrupt cabinet appointees to his cluelessness on display when signing his own executive order "is this all there is to sign?"( I paraphrased)
Well, I think it is your way of your interpretation, but the way to give a chance for all people from America is given by the election to a person, who not dictates against yours, but dictating those institutions who never recognised by you people, who ever followed the middle-class scepter of war against other people and for their own health in a world with hurricanes and unbalanced nature in America.
However, you have to chose whom you are, and the etiquette is yours presidentially.

And then yours "Barack Obama is just like the rest of them from his corrupt cabinet". Ah, comeon, this is disgusting like a communists address!
On one hand you are against socialism, on the other hand you call the president of the United States of America corrupt as the lefty antiamercianic assholes here in Germany.
Ehhh ... arffgghhhh!

[Sakizopa]

I'm not worried about paying taxes because I AM AWARE OF MY PERSONAL RESPONSBILITIES AND COMMON SENCE DICTATES CONTRIBUTIONS TO SOCIETY MUST BE MET(this is obviuos!!!!!!!!). I am against corrupt politicians wasting/steeling tax dollars while fooling simple minded citizens into beleiving their best interests are being served when in fact political power and government expansion is the goal.:mad1:
Barack Obama is just like the rest of them from his corrupt cabinet appointees to his cluelessness on display when signing his own executive order "is this all there is to sign?"( I paraphrased)
Well, I think it is your way of your interpretation, but the way to give a chance for all people in America is given by the election to a person, who not dictates against yours, but dictating those institutions who never recognised by you people, who ever followed the middle-class scepter of war against other people and for their own health in a world with hurricanes and unbalanced nature in America.
However, you have to chose whom you are, and the etiquette is yours presidentially.

[eusebioCBR]

And then yours "Barack Obama is just like the rest of them from his corrupt cabinet". Ah, comeon, this is disgusting like a communists address!
On one hand you are against socialism, on the other hand you call the president of the United States of America corrupt as the lefty antiamercianic assholes here in Germany.
Ehhh ... arffgghhhh![/QUOTE]

Give your politicians all the trust you want. I will exercise my right to question and challenge any public servant I employ.

[TrulyAmazing]

And then yours "Barack Obama is just like the rest of them from his corrupt cabinet". Ah, comeon, this is disgusting like a communists address!
On one hand you are against socialism, on the other hand you call the president of the United States of America corrupt as the lefty antiamercianic assholes here in Germany.
Ehhh ... arffgghhhh!

Give your politicians all the trust you want. I will exercise my right to question and challenge any public servant I employ.[/QUOTE]
It Could Be Worse Michale Jackson :D Could Be Setting In The Global Office and i know just that thought would make everybody nerveous EHHHHHHHH :eek: i,ll think it for ya :roll: just dont excercise the thought

[Sakizopa]

I apologize my words and behavior, because sometimes I like surfing through the internet when I´m drunk. It´s such sporting and I love my temperamentful way because of mine impulsive thinking art against any demonizings.

Me: „Hey White House, are you corrupt?“
WH: „ehh.. no?“
Can you hear it? White House says that it is NOT corrupt!
WH: „ehh.. maybe ..“
Me: „ah SHUT UP!“
WH: „okay. thanks.“

BUT let me say that I love the thinking art of Barack Obama and his gentle family more than mines´. „Love Boat Captain“.
When you insult Barack Obama as an imperialist and as corrupt, same arguments are found by „White Power“ and „Ku-Klux-Klan“ as well by many communists, and I don´t like assholes of political extremists with their demonzings and hate against the state for the folks, against an honored person like Mr. Pres. Barack Obama, Conductor Daniel Barenboim, chessplayer Gari Kasparov, Odd-Chancelor Helmut Schmidt, Izchak Rabin and Martin Luther King, and many many others.
Yes, call me an crazy idiot, yes I am. But I am in love with sensibel philosophists around the world, because they can reach my heart more than political extremists and more than I can.

I don´t hate states, and I don´t throw stones or words against another country and people; I hate myself of being unstudied. When I would be studied, I could make music in composing for instance. Listening at honest souls and reading in souls around the world is my way of acusmatic. Gods´ working is in souls either near or far behind any souls, but reasonable thinking art has to be in all stairways to heaven on earth.

[eusebioCBR]

God is the only one I'll follow without question:cool: Politicians are like any of us and I just don't understand this love affair with Obama.

[eusebioCBR]

Obama also stated today that the 3.8% economic slow down was the worst in three decades. He should have done more research because there was a 6.4% drop in 1982 thanks to President Carter. And how did Ronald Regan turn that 6.4% drop aroud back then? HE CUT TAXES!
I will be more than happy to eat my words and proclaim I am a dumb-ass if the government can spend our way out of this hole!

[TrulyAmazing]

God is the only one I'll follow without question:cool: Politicians are like any of us and I just don't understand this love affair with Obama.
HAPPY To Hear GLORY TO GOD I tell ya what it is from a certian point of view and you would not believe it bro but looks caa be impressive :cool: He Look Good His In Office For A New Genaration The First Black In Office its going be a long love affair you still got black woman all over the country under his spell What ever He Say You Still Going Hear From Theme :clap: :clap: Come On Come On Its Just A fact Dude Just A fact

[Sakizopa]

The economy is about years taking wars and worses in a world of nothing than to loose. Let´s take over together to a world without losses and enemies!

[eusebioCBR]

The new Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner, said he had made a "careless mistake" in not declaring $34,000 in back taxes.

How could that be? One of the sharpest minds in finance, co-author of the hugely complex and expensive bailout plan for the US banks, and he cannot even fill in a tax form accurately?

Obama'a election was the real "careless mistake" and now we're stuck with an "on the job training" president.

[eusebioCBR]

Obama's "stimulus bill" having one thousand and one hundred pages and not one congressman or senator has read the whole damn thing.:wtf: The blind(politicians) leading the blind(Obama supporters).

[metalchris25]

Obama's "stimulus bill" having one thousand and one hundred pages and not one congressman or senator has read the whole damn thing.:wtf: The blind(politicians) leading the blind(Obama supporters).
Sure, lets sign the damn thing! Freakin idiots man. Its really sad.

[Sakizopa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jll5baCAaQU

Listen: "You makes this happen. ... It belongs to you. ... "

Then recognize, that your force at YOUR president to manage your life is something tasting of sickness of your ownself, that you put your own responsibility into another life, into YOUR president, just to transport your hate from yourself onto the shoulder of YOUR president.

Those people I see here in Germany, and I don´t like them!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eusebioCBR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jll5baCAaQU

THAT PERSON IS THE US PRESIDENT. THAT PERSON HAS LITTLE MORE TO OFFER THAN PLATITUDINOUS SPEECHES!!!

[eusebioCBR]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jll5baCAaQU

Listen: "You makes this happen. ... It belongs to you. ... "

Then recognize, that your force at YOUR president to manage your life is something tasting of sickness of your ownself, that you put your own responsibility into another life, into YOUR president, just to transport your hate from yourself onto the shoulder of YOUR president.

Those people I see here in Germany, and I don´t like them!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's quite a diagnosis considering all you know about me is what you've derived from your own narrow point of view.:horseshit

[Sakizopa]

That's quite a diagnosis considering all you know about me is what you've derived from your own narrow point of view.:horseshit

I don´t like leftie comedians like nazipunks, who are thinking that a president should manage their life. The greater the expectations to a greater person, the lower the selfrespect to an other life. When you obey someone, think into your own person, which person you like to be part of societies and thinking arts, and which thinking art respects all societies to be part of America and which thinking art despites your own person in America.
:cool:

Captain Sir, Mr. President has a hard job to do. Support him, Captain Sir!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD_Sv4CV03k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-uIRZZR40
and so on.

In my own person I think about loyality in my work for my employer, when I do the best for his and his company, but people punish me, then it is about my color or something else.

On the other way I think the best way to get out of this taking drugs or shit, because shit likes me in another way concerning my soul.

[Sakizopa]

In my own person I think about loyality in my work for my employer, when I do the best for his and his company, but people punish me, then it is about my color or something else.

On the other way I think the best way to get out of this taking drugs or shit, because shit likes me in another way concerning my soul.

THE REPOSTE
Hm. Invite some people of yours around your employer to say that his company is MERDE or SHIT or doing some jobs around his shitty place of your employer, who has taken you to drugs. Let me say as your president that your employer is very shitty in any kind of views!

Rules are good for traditions into a persons heart, when hearts standing unbroken for a dreamers´ soul.
Sometimes rules have to been broken to keep souls for the good old traditions alive.

[eusebioCBR]

Sakizopa, freedom of speech and thought does not require your approval and anyone exersizing their American rights does not have to justify their opinions to you.
Now, let's see if you are capable of agreeing to disagree and carry on in a dignified manner.

[JulieCitySlicker]

It still pisses me off that those bankers who lied about their profits and the worth of their mortgages that they loaned for got all of that money last year, and spent it rediculously on things like that $450.000 party that they just had to have and spending millions on the Super Bowl,ect and they are getting more money and we are going to end up having to pay for that.

The way I feel about it is they made the mess themselves by lying and being greedy so they should have to clean their own mess up, not us!!!

There are a lot of things in this bailout that are a waste of money,imo. Like spending millions of dollars on STD ed in schools. That should be the job of parents not the schools. Let the people who are ultimately incharge of teaching their kids talk to them about this stuff like they are supposed to do.

As far as the whole economic stimulis package goes, I don't see how that is going to fix the economy, especially once its time to start paying that all back.

[eusebioCBR]

It still pisses me off that those bankers who lied about their profits and the worth of their mortgages that they loaned for got all of that money last year, and spent it rediculously on things like that $450.000 party that they just had to have and spending millions on the Super Bowl,ect and they are getting more money and we are going to end up having to pay for that.

The way I feel about it is they made the mess themselves by lying and being greedy so they should have to clean their own mess up, not us!!!

There are a lot of things in this bailout that are a waste of money,imo. Like spending millions of dollars on STD ed in schools. That should be the job of parents not the schools. Let the people who are ultimately incharge of teaching their kids talk to them about this stuff like they are supposed to do.

As far as the whole economic stimulis package goes, I don't see how that is going to fix the economy, especially once its time to start paying that all back.

Unfortunately there are enough lazy minded citizens not paying close attention and a fawning media not seriously questioning Obamas plans that will allow this "stimulous plan" to continue.
I also have a question like yours Julie. How will funding for abortion in other countries stimulate the American economy? Perhaps Obama is thinking of the embrionic stem cells we could harvest from dead children for medical research and profit.

[JulieCitySlicker]

That is a good question to ask as well eusebioCBR! The people running this nation, sadly enough never cease to amaze me:rolleyes: My view on the topic of abortion is that I'm not really for it because I could have easily become victim to that but if Obama brings back partial birth abortion then he is worse than the person I thought he was to begin with.
I don't know enough about the embrionic stem cell thing to comment about it, should read up about it though.

[TrulyAmazing]

Unfortunately there are enough lazy minded citizens not paying close attention and a fawning media not seriously questioning Obamas plans that will allow this "stimulous plan" to continue.
I also have a question like yours Julie. How will funding for abortion in other countries stimulate the American economy? Perhaps Obama is thinking of the embrionic stem cells we could harvest from dead children for medical research and profit.
Narrow Minded Gather COME ON !!! :D those black woman still under that obama spell :roll: :roll:

[Sakizopa]

Just selling T-Shirts on Obamas Homepage "smells like teen spirit". His speeches are more worth than teenies levels.

[JulieCitySlicker]

^Obama just pulls his speeches out of his ass and hopes that people will buy the lies:rolleyes:

[TrulyAmazing]

^Obama just pulls his speeches out of his ass and hopes that people will buy the lies:rolleyes:
:roll: and so did every other presidient before him :D gotta have that suit looking good and that speach ready

[Sakizopa]

Personally I think that Obama does his job as a president can do. To present ideals of the common american dream as it should be. Ice screams and politics peoples.

:-)

[JulieCitySlicker]

:roll: and so did every other presidient before him :D gotta have that suit looking good and that speach ready

You got that right Sis:D Especially Bill Clinton:rolleyes:

[TrulyAmazing]

Personally I think that Obama does his job as a president can do. To present ideals of the common american dream as it should be. Ice screams and politics peoples.

:-)
indeed you cant set judgemeant even on politicians unless your in their shoes you cant please everybody but you gotta do your job as best you can some will hate some will love some will agree and some will disagree

[TrulyAmazing]

You got that right Sis:D Especially Bill Clinton:rolleyes:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: the entire fling was a cover up for something I Was Proud Of Bill He Lied Ad Then Turn Around And Corrected That Takes Guts and kinda makes ya wonder :D who was running the country while that was taking place proabley hillary

[eusebioCBR]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: the entire fling was a cover up for something I Was Proud Of Bill He Lied Ad Then Turn Around And Corrected That Takes Guts and kinda makes ya wonder :D who was running the country while that was taking place proabley hillary

He corrected ONLY because he got caught.

[Sakizopa]

indeed you cant set judgemeant even on politicians unless your in their shoes you cant please everybody but you gotta do your job as best you can some will hate some will love some will agree and some will disagree
This is the common idea of democracy. But Obama sets up spiritual thoughts of life to combine all folks in the United States. And this is more than any president has done before!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCxo6BUG4JI
-> Stevie Wonder "Free"

Making our world to a vision for
L I F E

[JulieCitySlicker]

He corrected ONLY because he got caught.

Exactly!!

[TrulyAmazing]

He corrected ONLY because he got caught.
yes but still that took guts after lying then turning everybodys views back on the united states the guy made momeant of history that will never be forgotten he may have not change the world but he left us with something unforgetable

[TrulyAmazing]

This is the common idea of democracy. But Obama sets up spiritual thoughts of life to combine all folks in the United States. And this is more than any president has done before!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCxo6BUG4JI
-> Stevie Wonder "Free"

Making our world to a vision for
L I F E
thats why hes cool :cool: in ways of changing its about time at this point Sakizopa i was finding it hard picturing McCaine In Office For Real Good Lord The Right Thing Happend Come On :D

[eusebioCBR]

yes but still that took guts after lying then turning everybodys views back on the united states the guy made momeant of history that will never be forgotten he may have not change the world but he left us with something unforgetable

Yes the display of a lack of respect for his family, women and the integrity of the Presidency is quite unforgetable.

[JulieCitySlicker]

yes but still that took guts after lying then turning everybodys views back on the united states the guy made momeant of history that will never be forgotten he may have not change the world but he left us with something unforgetable

If any one of us did that, it would be called perjury and we would have been arrested for lying under oath. I still think he got a slap on the wrist for that one.