Stapp arrested again

[TheGreatDivide]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-stapp-arrested,0,4704216.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

[J-Man]

He's an idiot. I have no respect for men who beat up on women. I'm assuming that is what he did since they said it was domestic violence.

[Dogstar]

Wow, not good, not good at all. I hope the article is accurate in saying that no one was injured.

[Dogstar]

Here's an update:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/sfl-pcreed21may21,0,5517802.story?coll=orl-caltheatertop&track=mostemailedlink
Wife claims former Creed singer threw bottle at her at their home near Boca

By Leon Fooksman | Sun-Sentinel.com
Posted May 21, 2007, 10:50 AM EDT


WEST PALM BEACH -- The former lead singer of the rock band Creed on Monday was freed from the Palm Beach County Jail on supervised release after he was accused of assaulting his wife at their $4.9 million home west of Boca Raton over the weekend, the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office said.

Scott Stapp, 33, who has had run-ins with police for alleged drunken behavior and reckless driving, was released without having to post a bond on the second-degree misdemeanor count.

Under the conditions set by Circuit Judge Cory Ciklin, Stapp can have no contact with his wife nor enter their home except to use the recording studio there. He is also required to undergo random drug testing and consume no alcohol or illegal drugs.

According to a sheriff's report, deputies were called to the home on the 8800 block of Twin Lake Drive in Long Lake Estates, which Stapp co-owns with his wife, former Miss New York Jaclyn Nesheiwat, around 10:30 a.m. Sunday. Nesheiwat. told officers that her husband arrived home around 8 a.m. She said he was stumbling and appeared impaired. She said she began questioning him and it led to an exchange that ended when she said he threw a bottle of orange drink at her. The bottle missed, she said, but broke when it hit the floor of her bedroom. She told deputies she ran away and called 911 for help.

Stapp's lawyer, Robert Gershman, denied a bottle was thrown.

Stapp married Nesheiwat in 2006. The couple exchanged vows at the Vizcaya Museum and Gardens, an estate on the waterfront of Biscayne Bay in Miami. While on the way to their honeymoon in Hawaii, he was arrested on suspicion of being drunk in public at the Los Angeles airport.

On Thanksgiving 2005, he got into a widely publicized fight in a Baltimore hotel with members of the rock band 311.

He was arrested on a reckless driving offense in 2002 by the Orange County Sheriff's Office, state records show. After the airport incident, Stapp promised to get his life together. According to an article in the music magazine Rolling Stone, Stapp was traveling with a "sobriety coach" while on tour last year.

In January, he and his wife had a baby girl, Milan Hayat Stapp. He also has a son, Jagger, from a previous relationship.

The rocker founded Creed and won a Grammy Award in 2000 for the song With Arms Wide Open. He went out on his own last year with the solo album The Great Divide.

Nesheiwat has been the director of public affairs for the Scott Stapp Foundation, which promotes healthy parent-child relationships, People magazine reported. Earlier this month, Stapp announced his sponsorship of The Haven, a group home for abused and neglected boys west of Boca Raton.

Leon Fooksman can be reached at lfooksman@sun-sentinel.com or 561-243-6647.

[titan9]

Wow, I'm shocked. I just woke up and saw the headline on Yahoo news and was like "what has he done now?" It appears he has once again fallen off the wagon, which is a huge shame, especially since he is married and has a young daughter and son. That's gotta be tough on them. All people can hope for is that he can finally turn this all around and put down the bottle.

[Dogstar]

Exactly, titan. Addiction is so evil. I really hope he kicks it for good this time.

[titan9]

Yeah. He's in need of a good sponsor, a good clergyperson and, most importantly, a swift kick in the ass. He can beat this addiction, but only if he is willing to put forth the effort and seek the help he needs.

They just said recently that the charge has been reduced to a misdemeanor.

[Dogstar]

Yeah, no surprise there. I guess since he didn't wave a gun around, it's not considered a felony. I just hope he wises up before the violence escalates.

[titan9]

^ Yeah, definitely. I think if he can just stay away from the alcohol, he won't get into so much trouble. That's what it all is: the alcohol. It's been at the root of every single negative incident he's been involved in. The bar room fight, the 311 fight, the arrest at the airport, the Casino Cinema thing and now this. You'd think that after all the crap that happened back in 2005/2006, he'd have learned his lesson. Apparently not as he's done yet another self-destructive thing. I understand that alcoholics often fall off and take a drink after months of sobriety. I'm just hoping that this finally convinces him of the fact that he cannot drink alcohol, period. And that he needs to enter a serious rehab program because he has a serious problem. Granted, it could have been a lot worse. But that doesn't make what apparently went down OK. Let's just hope that this doesn't ruin whatever career he has left, that it doesn't end his marriage and that it results in him really getting help for this issue.

[Dogstar]

Yeah, alcoholism is tough to kick. Ask Trent Reznor. He fell off a few times before it sunk in. He's been sober about four years or so.

[titan9]

That's why he needs a sponsor and needs AA and serious rehab. I don't see him beating it without those three things.

[McField]

well I didn't know he had any broplems until now...though that he was doing greate with he's solo career

[Dogstar]

He seemed to be going along fine -- for a while, I guess. Drinking is hard to kick. I have a brother who's an alcoholic and he's tried several times to stop.

[TheGreatDivide]

http://www.comcast.net/providers/fan/popup.html?v=335983296&pl=336774434.xml&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fancover&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default.xml

For those who can this is the 911 call made by his wife.... so sad

[Ana4Stapp]

So sad to hear this...actually when I saw this title i thought it was an old thread with some new point of view...only now i realized it was a NEW one!!! Bad news about Stapp!! Its really bad to see how he seems to avoid to understand that he has a big problem with alcohol..how he has a self destructive beha viour ..We all know that his returning in a solo career was beneath our expectations...but he needs to find a way to deal with this..and using alcohol is not the solution...like titan said :
" finally convinces him of the fact that he cannot drink alcohol, period"
Too sad!

[titan9]

It appears he was also high on pot. *sighs* I just hope he can really get the help he needs now. Not just for himself, but for the sake of his wife and kids. I really feel for them.

[Dogstar]

Same here. He just doesn't get it yet.

[Finaldecision]

A letter from Scott (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...speaks_ap.html):

First of all I would like to express how thankfull and appreciative my
family is for the tremendeous outpouring of love and support we have received
during this insecure time in our marriage. I was shocked at how many have
rallied around us.

I am truly sorry and seek forgiveness from my wife. As she has done the same
seeking forgiveness from me. We both know we were wrong in how we handled the argument and in some of the allegations that were made.. Now we are tring to move forward as a family.

Things were stated to the police in the heat of anger that were not
completely accurate. Things have been said to the media and reported after the fact that are not accurate as well.

As in most cases like this, the next day everyone is sorry and wishes they
didn't get the police involved and said what they did about their partner. We
are no different.

My wife and I love eachother very much and are activley seeking support to
help us resolve this tough time and bring our loving family back together as one

Together, with counciling, as well as working on changing area's of our lives
in a mutual effort to learn, grow, and mature positivley as a Mother, Father,
Husband, Wife, and Spiritual human bieng, we will overcome this : )

We would also like to apologize to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Dept.for
calling them to our home and taking them away from the very serious and
dangerous job of protecting our community. Anyone that was effected negativly please forgive us as well?

We would also like to ask that the media please allow our family to heal
during this painfull time and remember we have children. So please take that
into consideration and respect our privacy and let this go. I know you would
want the same if the tables were turned.

God Bless you.
Scott, Jaclyn, Milan and Jagger Stapp : )

[eusebioCBR]

^I think I've heard this before:peoplesey

[rabidgopher04]

Sounds like an abusive, controlling person trying to keep a lid on the situation.

[titan9]

Sounds like an abusive, controlling person trying to keep a lid on the situation.

Or it could be a guy who has a serious problem with alcohol. I don't see how you can judge him as being an "abusive, controlling person" when (a) this is the first report of him ever doing anything even remotely harmful to his wife and (b) you don't even know the guy personally.

[Dogstar]

This is true, but the signs are there, sadly. Hopefully, he's not that type.

[titan9]

This is true, but the signs are there, sadly. Hopefully, he's not that type.

I'd like to hope so as well. I'd be more inclined to believe he was that type if this wasn't the first incident, but it apparently was. Or at least the first one reported to the cops. What we know is that he was drunk and high on pot. When people are high or drunk, they act differently than they normally would. He was impaired. I don't see how anyone can state he's an abusive, controlling person just because he came home drunk and high and threw a bottle at his wife's head. For all we know, this was a one time incident and he is not that kind of person. I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. And no, I am not at all condoning what he did because it was WRONG. I'm only saying the guy is innocent until proven guilty and, at this point, I don't think he's guilty of being abusive.

[Dogstar]

I hope you are right. I would hate to see him hurt his family.

[HeavensOnFire]

i got a tell yas, EVEN THE BEST OR PERFECT PERSON will have a wild hair up,em now and then im sure all of us i know by experince

[titan9]

Restraining order has been dropped:

Wife asks judge to drop restraining order against ex-Creed singer

By Nancy L. Othón
Sun-Sentinel.com
Posted May 25 2007, 8:02 PM EDT

The wife of former Creed lead singer Scott Stapp asked a judge Friday to dismiss the domestic violence restraining order against her husband.

In court documents filed Friday, Jaclyn Stapp asks Circuit Judge Charles Burton to essentially nullify the injunction, which prevented Stapp from entering their home west of Boca Raton and seeing their baby, Milan.

Stapp, 33, was arrested Sunday after his wife called 911 and frantically reported he had thrown a bottle of orange juice at her. Jaclyn Stapp, who ducked, was not hurt during the incident. The original charge of felony aggravated assault already has been reduced to misdemeanor assault.

"The filing of the voluntary dismissal was at my client's direction, but shouldn't be taken as withdrawing any of the allegations which were made in the petition," said Jaclyn Stapp's attorney, Michael Gora. "My client and her husband have been attempting to reach an understanding for the benefit of their marriage and child." Gora declined to comment further.

In her petition filed Monday, Jaclyn Stapp alleged that deputies who responded to the couple's home for the domestic dispute found cocaine and marijuana in her husband's car. No drug charges have been filed against Scott Stapp. The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office has acknowledged another investigation is ongoing, but officials have declined to say whether drugs were found or give details.

The petition also described prior alleged incidents in which Stapp threw a baby swing at her and broke at least two doors.

The conditions of Stapp's bond still require him to avoid contact with his wife and stay away from their home, though he is allowed to use the recording studio there.

The Grammy award-winning rock singer, whose band broke up in 2004, has admitted in a Rolling Stone magazine interview to struggling with drugs.

Scott Stapp's attorney Robert Gershman declined to comment Friday but previously has denied there were any drugs on the couple's property and has said that Jaclyn Stapp's 911 call was motivated by money and custody of the child.

This whole thing just keeps getting more and more bizarre. I honestly don't know what to think anymore.

[Dogstar]

That last paragraph is really annoying. I know the lawyer has a job to do in defending his client, but c'mon, that allegation is ridiculous. I don't know much about his wife, but this pattern is all too familiar. I'm thinking she called the cops because this sort of thing has happened before, and maybe she was fed up/scared or both, especially with that baby in the house.

[titan9]

^ Agreed, and that's what makes it confusing. On the one hand, she's dropping the restraining order which would point to them maybe reconciling. But then you've got this lawyer that is trying to make her look bad. Where does Stapp stand on this? Does he want to reconcile or does he think his wife is greedy like this lawyer is trying to imply? I'd like to hope that they can work it out for themselves and the kids, and that it's not going to lead to a big legal showdown between Scott and Jaclyn.

[Dogstar]

I'm not saying she is abused, but dropping the restraining order is not uncommon with abused women. They do it out of fear, or because they think it's best to stay because of the children. She may think she doesn't have options. I would think in her case she might have options, but even so, you get to certain point and you don't want to upset the apple cart and make the abuser more angry by leaving. I'm hoping this is not the case with them.

[eusebioCBR]

There is a negative patern of behavior with Scott. I wouldn't want my sister involved with someone who chooses to conduct themselves in this manner.

There's nothing wrong with being gudgemental when recognizing abuse to ones self or others.

[titan9]

I'm not saying she is abused, but dropping the restraining order is not uncommon with abused women. They do it out of fear, or because they think it's best to stay because of the children. She may think she doesn't have options. I would think in her case she might have options, but even so, you get to certain point and you don't want to upset the apple cart and make the abuser more angry by leaving. I'm hoping this is not the case with them.

That same thought popped into my head when I read that article. I just hope and pray this isn't the case.

I do have to say that based on what I know about Scott, he seems to be a really nice guy while sober, but definitely a mean person while intoxicated. The key for him is beating his addictions. That solves, I think, most of his personality problems. It's easier said than done, but if he has the will, he can do it. Not just for himself but for his kids. They desperately need a stable household to grow up in.

[Dogstar]

Yeah, he seems to be of the "mean drunk" variety, which is dangerous. I hope he gets the help he needs, for the sake of himself, as well as for his family.

[titan9]

^ Yeah. And the latest news (well, before the news of the order being dropped) of him supposedly breaking two doors hits close to home with me. That is freakin' scary! Forget about the new CD. He needs to take a long time to go through rehab and pick up the pieces.

[Dogstar]

Yup. It may take years.

[nagpo]

lol what fucking idiot. he has a great life, a beautiful wife 2 beautiful kids. he lives in a huge house and gets to do what he loves for a living - sing! but he has to fuck it up with this stuff. i have no respect for this guy, i no longer support his carrer(if you can call it that) . *throws out creed and stapp albums* what a hypocrite. no more excuses.

[Dogstar]

I will always enjoy the music, but yeah, he's running out of second, third and fourth chances with a lot of people.

[Stappishot]

I don't know, I don't want to think I know either, but as someone said b4, I think this happened b4 as well. she finally got the strength to call the cops in this matter.but I think stapp is gonna be stapp, and no matter what, he's gonna do what he wants to do. No one an change him only he can change himself. It seems to me that he cares more about drugs then his family at times. He has beautiful kids, and needs to live for them, period! He is really losing chances with me as a fan as well, I don't know how many times I can stomach another "I'm sorry" episode from stapp! I don't know how many sorry letters I can handle, I'm so sick of him saying sorry then pulling stupid stunts again, and again, how many times do we have to hear that?? He needs yrs of work, not months to get away from that life of drugs, sorry to say but, he's definitely gonna cause him to lose his family if he keeps this up! As for the lawyer saying she's in this for money, I don't know, but if she is, that's just crazy! I'm sure this is not the only time this has happened, and I think she is in fear of him, and that's y she dropped the order, my friend was abused for many yrs, and this is the same way she reacted as well, as in dropping the order, cause she was afraid of what he might do. My friend was always smiles, but deep down inside she was hurting so bad, and I'm glad she finally spoke up to me and other friends of hers, and she's doing good. I always noticed with Jaclyn also that she would smile from ear to ear when she first met him, if u see her pics with him, but then months later, I noticed her smile not being so bright as it used to be. I hope they both get the help they need, b4 it gets worse.

[HeavensOnFire]

With All Due Respects To everyone opions and thoughts and views i think and do believe we have heared every Reguler member here at the feeds opion for respect of this communtiy and we are close friends here lets keep the gossip and remarks on stapp and his family in a private message for those of you who wish to keep bringing this matter up in this thread, LOVE PEACE Ya,alls

[MissSeeker]

I pray for Scott. I hope he gets through his alcohol and drug abuse problems.
I hope he and his family will get through these hard times.

[HeavensOnFire]

I pray for Scott. I hope he gets through his alcohol and drug abuse problems.
I hope he and his family will get through these hard times.
he,ll take a licking and keep on ticking..

[eusebioCBR]

he,ll take a licking and keep on ticking..

"lets keep the gossip and remarks on stapp and his family in a private message"

So your "remark" is acceptable because it's positive?:peoplesey

Thanks, but I'll continue to speak my mind.:smokin:

[HuMaN~ClAy]

lol what fucking idiot. he has a great life, a beautiful wife 2 beautiful kids. he lives in a huge house and gets to do what he loves for a living - sing! but he has to fuck it up with this stuff. i have no respect for this guy, i no longer support his carrer(if you can call it that) . *throws out creed and stapp albums* what a hypocrite. no more excuses.

exactly my feelings on the issue. Once, fine, i can brush it off... Twice, not so cool, time to straighten things out... But at this point i can't even count how many times this has happened.

It's pretty obvious to me why the AB guys are in the position they are right now.

If he can right his wrongs then that's awesome and he will get my respect back. But right now he's just another deadbeat dad that you would find on some stupid talk show. So many people have put so much energy into trying to help him and he just keeps going back to his ways. He won't change until he wants to change.

[Stappishot]

Yes, Scott is indeed getting out of hand! You're right no one can change this man, he has to change himself, and I don't see him doing that anytime soon! He loves to party and drink to much as he has shown us number of times! He has the life, all he has to do is sing for a living, and he's set for life! I hope Jaclyn knows what she's doing, I really do, she has to think if that's a safe environment for the kids and herself. I read a statement from Jaclyn the day she made a report on Scott about what happened, and I just want to tell everyone, these are NOT my words or anyone else's words, these are JACLYN'S words.

"She alleged in the document that her husband is a drug addict with a bad temper. She said he threw a juice bottle at her head as hard as he could Sunday morning. She ducked and it hit the wall, making a dent, she said. On April 1, she added, he threw a baby's chair swing at her, leaving a black and blue mark on her body. On the same day, he threw a picture frame and broke a glass closet door. In addition, he broke the door to her bathroom in an attempt to get her, she said in the document".

An attempt to get her!!!! After I read that, my skin crawled, and not in a good way! Why does she put up with this??? He's not gonna stop until he feels good!!! She has to think about her safety as well as her kids safety!!! Marriage is not good enough when a person is getting abused, even if there is a child involved!!! :mad1: That is just horrible! I will not support an abuser of any sort!!! Scott Stapp needs to grow up and stop hurting people that he claims he loves!!!! I think he needs to be single and take time out for himself, a lot of time, let Jaclyn have the kids until he feels in his heart of hearts that he is ready to be a MAN and not a fucking child!!! :mad1: This shit just tops the cake! This is not good at all!! I am so feed up with Scott right now! :mad1:

This is the document I found online that says it::::


The wife of former Creed lead singer Scott Stapp said in a court document filed Monday that deputies called to the home for a domestic dispute found cocaine, marijuana and other drugs in her husband's car.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office made no mention of drugs in an arrest report released Monday. Sheriff's spokesman Paul Miller declined Tuesday to say whether deputies found drugs at Stapp's $4.9 million property west of Boca Raton, Fla. But Miller said his agency has opened another investigation connected to Sunday's incident. He would not give further details.

"We opened a separate case relative to what was observed and transmitted orally to deputies at the scene. They initiated an investigation that is open and we can't comment on it," he said.

Stapp's wife, Jaclyn, made a similar allegation to sheriff's dispatchers Sunday morning when she said her husband threw a juice bottle at her, according to the 911 tape released Tuesday. The former Miss New York pleaded for help after the couple got into a fight over her husband staying out all night.

"He's hiding all the drugs. He's got a big bag of pot and a bag of dope," she frantically told a Sheriff's Office dispatcher.

She ranted that Stapp was still intoxicated when he came home.

"He's wasted," she said. "He's on drugs. He's on pot. There's a lot of drugs in the house."

Stapp's defense attorney, Robert Gershman, said there weren't drugs at the property.

"I don't know where that came from," he said. "It's questionable at best."

Other defense attorneys said statements to 911 dispatchers aren't always true. They said the same can be applied to restraining orders, like the one Jaclyn Stapp filed in court Monday against her husband, even though the documents are supposed to be sworn statements.

"It's not unusual for victims to say what they want," attorney Michael Salnick said, referring to 911 calls.

Deputies arrested Scott Stapp for felony aggravated assault, and he spent the night in county jail. Circuit Judge Cory Ciklin reduced the charge Monday to a misdemeanor assault and freed Stapp on supervised release, which requires him to check in weekly with counselors. The judge ordered the singer to avoid contact with his wife and barred him from entering their home except to use the recording studio there. He also ordered Stapp to undergo random drug testing.

Hours later, Circuit Judge Charles Burton granted Jaclyn Stapp a restraining order forbidding her husband from entering their house or her mother's Boca Raton home and staying away from her and their baby, Milan.

She alleged in the document that her husband is a drug addict with a bad temper. She said he threw a juice bottle at her head as hard as he could Sunday morning. She ducked and it hit the wall, making a dent, she said. On April 1, she added, he threw a baby's chair swing at her, leaving a black and blue mark on her body. On the same day, he threw a picture frame and broke a glass closet door. In addition, he broke the door to her bathroom in an attempt to get her, she said in the document.

Sunday's arrest was the latest trouble for Scott Stapp, who founded Creed, won a Grammy Award in 2000 for the song With Arms Wide Open and whose group sold 25 million records in the United States before breaking up in 2004. He was arrested on suspicion of public drunkenness at the Los Angeles airport on his way to his 2006 honeymoon with Jaclyn. On Thanksgiving 2005, he got into a fight in a Baltimore hotel with members of the rock band 311.

The singer admitted to Rolling Stone magazine that he had struggled with drugs and was traveling with a "sobriety coach" on his latest solo tour.

Gershman couldn't be reached late Tuesday to comment on the restraining order but said the call to 911 Sunday was "motivated by selfishness over money and custody of at least one or both children." Scott Stapp has a son, Jagger, 8, from a previous relationship.

Jaclyn Stapp's attorney, Michael Gora, said she called for help out of fear.
"Her motivation in making the 911 call was to protect herself and the party's child Milan because she was in fear for her life, and for no other reason whatsoever."

[titan9]

He's got some serious issues, and I don't think anyone can defend him anymore. Lord knows I quit a long time ago. I pray for him, but I don't think he's going to change. At least he hasn't given any indication of this. It is really sad the downward spiral his life has taken in the past 5 years.

[Stappishot]

He's got some serious issues, and I don't think anyone can defend him anymore. Lord knows I quit a long time ago. I pray for him, but I don't think he's going to change. At least he hasn't given any indication of this. It is really sad the downward spiral his life has taken in the past 5 years.

The only people that still defend Scott is PBF, I'm not knocking them by any means, but they are better then me, let me tell ya. I couldn't keep on supporting a person such as him. He proved himself so much in a bad way, that I'm sorry to say, I lost hope. It doesn't seem like he wants help at all. The man is getting older and still acts like he's 15!

[J.T.]

Man he does need help with this problem. I hope he overcomes this for his family and for his music. I'm a big fan of his but I won't lie he does have a problem.